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India abetted terror in Sri Lanka in the mid-1980s by douchebag_duryodhanain india

[–]utcursch 7 points8 points ago

Sri Lanka has two main ethnic groups: the Tamil-speaking Hindu minority and the Sinhala-speaking Buddhist majority. Due to several reasons, tensions developed between the two groups, leading to periodic riots and violence. A section of Tamils took up arms, advocating militant secessionism. During the anti-insurgency operations, the Sri Lankan government was accused of carrying out state terrorism.

Obviously, the Tamils in India were sympathetic towards the cause of the Sri Lankan Tamils. Since the British days, a section of Tamil leaders in India had been cribbing about the "Aryan" dominance in Indian politics (see Dravida Nadu). In order to thwart off any secessionist feelings in India (and to gain political mileage), the Indian government decided to show the Tamils how much it cared for them. So, India ended up supporting many of the Tamil nationalist groups in SL, offering them military training as well as financial support. The people trained by RAW included the LTTE supremo Prabhakaran and the team that later became responsible for Rajiv Gandhi's assassination.

Apart from the "We care for the Tamils" thing, India also wanted to be seen as an influential regional power. Although both India and SL were officially non-aligned, India was a cronie of the USSR, and SL was becoming pro-US day-by-day. In addition, Pakistan started supporting Sri Lanka (in the 1971 war, SL had allowed it to fly refinforcements to East Pakistan). Pakistan provided Sri Lanka with military training, ammunition, tanks and military advisors among other things. This led to political tensions between the India and SL.

As the human rights crisis in SL worsened, the Indian Tamil leaders urged the Indian government to directly intervene in the situation. India asked Sri Lankan government to stop its military operations, but SL refused to oblige. In 1987, when India sent some unarmed ships with food, medicines and other supplies, the SL Navy forced them back home. In order to show its might to Sri Lanka (and to its supporter Pakistan), India violated the Lankan airspace to drop the supplies (Operation Poomalai).

The Sri Lankan government became concerned that India would follow this with military operations. So, it took time off for negotiations, resulting in the Indo-Sri Lanka Accord. As per the accord, SL agreed to many of the Tamil leaders' demands (such as declaring Tamil one of the national languages and granting more powers to the provinces). In return, India agreed to stop supporting the militant groups and to provide military support to Sri Lanka for enforcing peace. It sent the Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF) to Lanka, to which the Tamil militant groups surrendered.

However, LTTE, the most extremist of the militant groups, returned to violence some days later. Now, India would have looked like a huge hypocrite if it still supported the LTTE. After all, SL had agreed to nearly all of its demands and India had agreed to support it against the militants. So, the IPKF was ordered to forcefully disarm LTTE. The entire IPKF episode was a major image disaster for India. IPKF was accused of massacring civilians (both Tamils and Sinhalese) on multiple occassions (e.g. Jaffna hospital massacre and Valvettiturai massacre). In addition, it also suffered heavy casualties, leading to anti-Vietnam-war-like voices of protests back home. Finally, when VP Singh was elected as the new PM, he agreed to withdraw IPKF from Sri Lanka. Rajiv Gandhi was later assassinated by a militant team in 1991 (LTTE denied responsibility).

India abetted terror in Sri Lanka in the mid-1980s by douchebag_duryodhanain india

[–]utcursch 5 points6 points ago

Fun fact: Prabhakaran was trained by RAW. Plus, India also provided support to other Tamil "freedom fighter" groups in Sri Lanka, including TELO, PLOTE and EROS.

Initially, the Indian government just wanted to prove the former Dravida Nadu proponents wrong by showing that it cared for the Tamils. Then it became an ego issue for our leaders, although acts like Operation Poomalai were showcased as humanitarian relief efforts. Next came the IPKF disaster, with both Tamils and Sinhalas accusing Indian Army of human rights violations. Rajiv Gandhi miserably failed to recognize the power of India's own Frankenstein monster.

Of course, the Sri Lankan politicians have no right to be on a moral high horse either. Their government also abetted terror in its own way.

TIL that actor Paresh Rawal is married to a former Miss India by tyrantjillin india

[–]utcursch 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, she was especially natural in Karishmaa.

Mordechai Vanunu, a man who spent 18 years in prison for blowing the whistle on Israel's nuclear weapons program. by lordlicoricein wikipedia

[–]utcursch 10 points11 points ago

It can't be on the front page of reddit with just 80 points. It's on your front page, because you've subscribed to r/wikipedia.

Helen Keller & Rabindranath Tagore c1930 by skis01in india

[–]utcursch 9 points10 points ago

Helen Keller in Sari

http://i.imgur.com/Mh8oN.jpg

Dear fellow Indian redditors, can you please do you bit to arrest a motherfucker who killed a pregnant lady and injured her entire family. by I_AM_SAYINGin india

[–]utcursch 2 points3 points ago*

From Hindutan Times

No arrests have been made as the driver fled the scene. He left behind his badly damaged car and an injured friend, Dakshaya Jaiswal, 21. Both are students of DU, the police said.

Looking at the pics, I wonder how the hell did the BMW driver manage to escape uninjured.

BTW, I doubt this petition will be read by the police or the authorities.

TIL in India's Battle of the Somme 1,000-strong British and Indian force, outnumbered 10 to one, halted the Japanese army's relentless march across Asia by douchebag_duryodhanain india

[–]utcursch -2 points-1 points ago

They do teach you this stuff... how the outnumbered soldiers of the Indian National Army backed by the Japanese forces fought bravely against the evil British and their brainwashed Indian slaves in the Burma campaign.

Those who are heartless once cared too much. — Unknown by utcurschin quotes

[–]utcursch[S] 3 points4 points ago

I came across those posts too, but I'm not sure if that's the original source. Before submitting this, I used Google custom search to determine the earliest mention of the quote. I got several backdated tumblr posts (like this one, posted a month ago, but dated 2000). Some twitter/deviantart posts appear in the search results too, but those are false alarms - the poster's signature or "About me" text contains the quote.

Would you guys be interested in a subreddit for discussions about the Subcontinent? by poop_monsterin india

[–]utcursch 0 points1 point ago

Only if it has strict moderators who ban the likes of MLBs at first sight.

Where on Earth is Captain Vyom? by rindojustrindoin india

[–]utcursch 4 points5 points ago

That's spammy SEO at work. Basically, they just put the name of every TV show from the Wikipedia categories (like this one) on their website with the text "This movie is not available at present."

Where on Earth is Captain Vyom? by rindojustrindoin india

[–]utcursch 2 points3 points ago

Space City Sigma, not Space Station Sigma.

The collapse of Aryan Invasion Theory and the prevalence of Indigenism by douchebag_duryodhanain india

[–]utcursch 5 points6 points ago

The 2001 study (by Michael Bamshad etal.) that you linked to was based on samples from a single state: Andhra Pradesh. Probably a more generalizable study is this 2009 study published in Nature. It is based on samples from 25 different castes/tribes belonging to 6 different language families from 13 states of India. The authors use the terms "Ancestral North Indian" (ANI) and "Ancestral South Indian" (ASI) to denote the distinct genetic groups; "Aryan"/"Indo-European" and "Dravidian" are used to refer to the linguistic groups only.

The conclusion is somewhat similar to the 2001 study: "ANI ancestry ranges from 39-71% in most Indian groups, and is higher in traditionally upper caste and Indo-European speakers". But its authors discredit the theory that "Aryans" invaded India and subdued the "Dravidians" 2000-3000 years ago. Instead, they conclude that the ANIs emerged 40,000 years ago. The ANI-ASI groups merged at some point, resulting in what we people the 'South Asian race' today. Of course, it's hard to be certain about any of the 'Aryan' migration theories without more research, but what you believe is too simplistic (and most probably wrong according to several recent genetic and archaelogical studies).

Beef eating in the Hindu society by utcurschin india

[–]utcursch[S] 3 points4 points ago

And a rebuttal.

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