I'm not sure if this even counts as griefing...

bad_german · 2012-02-06T20:43:46.573062+00:00

Actually I think the hope was initially that people would stop making such easy, lame jokes when they realised how incredibly unoriginal they are, and would put a little more thought and effort into being original.

I suspect the hope is a forlorn one, however.

dehydratedchicken · 2012-02-06T19:23:24.044146+00:00

Gah - typo. Good catch.

ArtemD · 2012-02-06T14:13:26.632449+00:00

People make judgements online in a few seconds

Right. :-/

dehydratedchicken · 2012-02-06T12:58:16.831590+00:00

And filling up r/web_dev with dumb memes just like r/web_design, and encouraging others to do the same.

So, y'know... thanks for that. :-/

slimkwik · 2012-02-06T08:01:31.319306+00:00

Congratulations: you are part of the problem.

slimkwik · 2012-02-06T08:00:32.597752+00:00

Recognise that you're talking about two intensively-moderated communities there. The one thing they're not is a shining example of high-quality content achieved exclusively via community voting

ZarqonsBeard · 2012-02-05T22:31:47.961498+00:00

Regardless, it's free advertising - and even worse, the kind you couldn't even buy if you wanted to. Their film becoming a meme that ends up all over the internet is the kind of thing that happens in online marketers' wet dreams, and I don't think we should reward them with the free advertising when they fucked up interacting with the Reddit community so badly, or it'll only encourage others to do the same on purpose.

ZarqonsBeard · 2012-02-05T22:22:10.317802+00:00

No. We are not rewarding a shitty AMA and naked attempt to use Reddit and its community like a billboard with free advertising for his film.

Gawkes · 1 day

Or you push back.

awaywethrow1982 · 1 day

It's bad form to copy-paste old comments verbatim into new threads, so I'll just leave this here in the hope it helps.

(P.S. You are depressed - very, from the sound of it. A little-known fact is that "persistently low mood" is only one symptom of depression, and not even an essential one for a formal diagnosis.)

UtterlyShelly · 1 day

They have reference materials on new APIs and technologies, but their advice and sample code frequently still teaches bad, old or dangerously ill-advised patterns and code.

MamaJumba · 1 day

"Most people don't think through their opinions, but instead adopt them wholesale from things they hear or read".

The OP read this, and began believing it, meaning he is at least potentially guilty of the same thing.

It's not that complicated...

celacanto · 1 day

I was all set to say the two scenarios are equivalent, but when you mentioned the viewer was female and Jewish, it suggests she's deriving pleasure from identifying with the abused party rather than the abuser, which is a different and more complex question.

Personally I have no trouble with BDSM porn as long as both practitioners are deriving satisfaction or pleasure through it (eg, a sub and a dom, as opposed to a dom and someone trying to pay the rent), but you raise a good point that less this requirement, the sexual version is functionally no different to the non-sexual one.

TL:DR; Either your friend(s) only like porn where the abused party is willing and aroused by their treatment, or I suspect they're hypocrites excusing their fetish but condemning others for functionally identical behaviour.

puredemo · 1 day

To be fair, whoever was behind the account (Harrelson or his publicist) was also snotty, patronizing and only alotted about 15 minutes to answer questions.

I think what really got to people was him doing an "Ask Me Anything" and then getting pissy when people asked him to do anything apart from gush about his new movie (that no-one cared about).

They thought it would be a tame, fawning audience of voiceless people who were already interested in the movie for them to shout marketing BS at, when actually it was an audience of people with their own opinions who could and did answer back when they smelled inauthenticity, who were there to talk about other subjects with Harelson so they could become interested in the movie.

Classic case of mis-marketing by misunderstanding your audience, combined with treating people like dumb cattle in a medium where they can answer back and tell you where to stick it.

puredemo · 1 day

Because he's posting in r/funny, r/pics and other high-traffic subreddits.

Higher traffic = more people voting = more extreme high/low scores for unusually popular/unpopular content.

puredemo · 1 day

That's what we've been told, but gravity13 has posted some fairly compelling evidence to ToR in the past demonstrating that the totals for posted links are also handicapped by adding downvotes disproportionately past about 2000 karma (net), and this could be evidence that comment karma totals reported on comments are likewise unreliable.

andrewsmith1986 · 1 day

Ah - I apologise - I thought it only happened after the AMA had already gone to shit.

Theon · 1 day

SPOILERS

If they were travelling at relativistics velocities it's even worse, because they would have reached the sun only a few minutes after takeoff (8 light-minutes away, yo?), and could never had slowed down enough to dock with the other craft.

Moreover, I was talking about the part where (IIRC) they're running along the face of the cube (which, remember, is dense enough to have it's own gravity acting towards its centre), then they get to the edge and one guy dangles off it like a vertical cliff(!), before letting go, free-falling for a while(!) before the film-makers remembered how gravity works and he now skids to a stop on another flat, horizontal surface.

Were they paying attention (or had they just put any thought into it), they would have realisted that as gravity acts towards the centre of mass, when you got to the corner of the cube it would have been like walking up and down a 45-degree slope, not a horizontal "ground" with a vertical cliff, that magically turns into another horizontal "ground" a few seconds after you step over it.

They literally fucked up the physics of it then corrected themselves a few seconds later instead of getting it right the first time - I found the film a bit pretentious and lightweight before that, but at that point it just revealed itself as ludicrously bad. :-(

Theon · 2 days

No... you really didn't.

schlitz100 · 2 days

TIL I'm a keyboard connoisseur. ;-)

But seriously, no. I've used various keyboards which were horrible - spongey, imprecise, needed keys to be pressed from overly-precise angles to go down cleanly, etc.

Modern laptop keyboards are a shitload better than they used to be, but even now there's a certain amount of variation, and after a few pages on typing you (well, maybe not you, but plenty of other people... ;-) can really tell the difference.

Theon · 2 days

For me it was the fact it had so many gaping plot-holes and unresolved arbitrary things happening, not to mention the fight on the giant cube where they even threw basic physics out the window.

schlitz100 · 2 days

... which will be a PITA if he wants to take notes on it in lectures.

I don't agree that you should spring for a MacBook just to get a good keyboard, but there's nothing stupid at all about trying to avoid cheap, crappy laptop keyboards if you're going to be doing a lot of typing on it.

stesch · 2 days

Most sites nowadays have a fixed width or min-width. If your browser window is smaller than that, you'll run into this.

Right, but if those sites were designed properly they'd use media queries to re-layout the UI if a browser window was smaller than their min-width.

Horizontal scrolling is just bad usability - always has been, and given we read left-right and then top-bottom, always will be.

stesch · 2 days

Therefore, I argue that it's an OS setting outside of the web developer's responsibility and "not our problem".

Sadly, that correct assignment of blame is rarely carried out by most users, who typically have trouble ttelling the difference between the site, browser and OS, let alone knowing where to assign blame for any odd issue like this.

Even worse, even if someone does work out where to assign blame correctly, that doesn't stop the issue from being annoying, and won't convince them to keep using the site in preference to a competitor which uses a layout which only uses vertical scrolling.

More likely the site concerned will just see a precipitous drop in Lion-users, rather than crowds of angry consumers who still use it while shouting at Apple to fix the problem.

Geaux · 2 days

I dunno - I wrote a script a year or two ago to archive off as many of my comments as it could get from my user-account (for reference, IIRC, reddit allows you access to about 50 pages back before it stops giving you the "previous" link) and stash them in a database so I could play with some data-mining. Even ensuring a safely polite delay between requests to avoid overloading reddit's servers, it didn't take that long (less than a minute) to archive 50 or so pages of comments - and after retrieval, parsing-time to extract the stats would be negligible.

This bot only seems to be posting about 42 comments in an entire day, so think it's much more likely caused by a lazy or thoughtless programmer than by the time required to extract a decent number of comments for the analysis.

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