Community Can Be Harmful to GLBT People

MarlovianDiscosophia · 1 day

First of, I shouldn't have said "doesn't get along with" because it implies there lies any responsibility on her shoulders for her experience. I wasn't trying to insinuate that she should just tolerate or deal with the shit that she went through in her community because community everywhere is sacred and good.

What I was trying to say is that she didn't describe "community" as an abstract concept that can be applied anywhere, she described a narrow example of community that she experienced and then said that that is what community is, everywhere and that is how it is, everywhere. Which is blatantly false.

If someone says, "I hate dogs because they are violent weapons that are only used by the police to scare and hurt people"...I do have a right to say "You either don't hate dogs, or you don't know what dogs are."

Her saying community is bad and unhealthy because of her experience is like someone else saying that parents everywhere are bad because theirs were abusive.

Yes, community can be harmful to GLBT people. Community can be harmful to everyone and anybody else who is marginalized (speaking as someone who has many disabilities). I respect the OPs experience, but I challenge their conclusions that the death of community everywhere, in general, is good.

MarlovianDiscosophia · 1 day

As an anarchist I'm all for decentralizing, locality, and community.

Anarchist reporting, 100% agreed.

At the same time I've been in plenty of small communities and I've had enough experiences with them to know how toxic they can be.

Everything can be toxic. Anarchism can be toxic. Decentralization, locality, and community can be JUST as toxic as the structures they are formed in contrast to. It depends on what kind of community. As, actually DanielPMonut also said.

Community can be horrible. So can people. So can relationships. The list goes on. Is community in and of itself, inherently bad for GLBT people? Of course not.

From your link:

I would love my neighbour not to give a damn about me. I’m quite content to spend my life not knowing their name, merely nodding to them in passing.

I would love to challenge the authors assertion. We all live in community whether we like it or not. Even if it's a community of two. I mean, look at Castaway where Wilson was created in order for there to be a community (that whole ordeal reminds me of God saying, "it is not good for man to be alone"). She doesn't hate community. She just hates communities of people she doesn't get along with.

GreyFoxSolid · 1 day

I want to believe.

MrMOMOKINZ · 5 days

My family put our dog down today. He was twelve years old...best, most awesome friend.

Oh I am a mess. Give your pal a huge hug for a good five minutes, for me, please? :(

_y2b_ · 6 days

This is one of their bestests.

foxshrike · 7 days

Which reactions are you finding disheartening over there?

Ezekiel3721 · 9 days

California has the 8th largest economy in the world. It could stand to share both people and businesses with neighboring states.

neofaust · 13 days

Indeed. The possibility that this man is worthless does make me feel less bad as it invalidates the compassion I had for him after watching that video. Thank you.

helloimtom08 · 14 days

So if you do something good that isn't your job, then you are a hero?

Yes.

usquebaugh · 16 days

This would actually make a very interesting book title.

Flabbagazta · 17 days

Funny, I'm Irish living in Cambodia and about 90% of the time, I don't know why I'm talking.

dizifrish · 23 days

Screenshot?

scottywatty · 1 month

but don't force yourself to write something, or it will be contrived and rubbish. think quality instead of quantity.

Well, this is interesting advice. Seems to be the opposite of just about what every author/writer from I've read or talked to about writing have said, from Bird by Bird to Writing down the bones to 10 english classes...no offense, but for acquiring quality isn't that why we have editing? :)

Grigori7 · 1 month

Excuse me, it's 96.3%! Thank you very much. People have no respect for numbers these days...

ryguy125 · 1 month

"Dear-Leaders"

and call each other comrades.

No, I'm being serious.

IgG · 1 month

THANK YOU!!

j2cool · 1 month

The mother came around, told her to come back and gave me a nasty look. Made me feel like a criminal.

This angers me, but not against the mother...from the beginning of time mom's have been known to be overprotective etc. etc. etc...I find her reaction more of a poor reflection on our society and the men and women who have contributed to this culture where mothers are forced to be hyper-paranoid around single men and their kids.

justquitecurious · 1 month

And if you have scientific evidence that shows this wouldn't happen then I'd love to read it.

I wasn't the one making the audacious, borderline terrible, claims—you were.

justquitecurious · 1 month

Are you not concerned that your future children will be somewhat neglected?

You say this as if you have scientific evidence that this will happen for sure.

justquitecurious · 1 month

I would love to ask her this question,

How, what...would this accomplish?

justquitecurious · 1 month

One could argue that because of the disability it is impossible for the child to bring happiness to the family.

You should volunteer at an Independent Living Centers, I've had many, many, many conversations with parents who've said the exact opposite...who have confessed to me that their child bring and have taught them great joy and love.

mattymouse · 1 month

Going to tell you the same thing that I've told myself and other heterosexual friends.

Equally yoked.

2 corinthians 6:14

DKMM · 1 month

Doesn't that argument against monogamy stem from the fact that women used to be viewed as property in the marriage?

It may, but I'd argue that it's irrelevant. Hell, if one guy and five women want to marry, or four men and two woman...and they are all freely making the decision to commit to each other or...whatever they want to do...that's their prerogative. I don't care what oppressive, fucked up culture the practice may be coming from...if it ain't anymore, then "Wheeeeeeee"

DKMM · 1 month

Indeed...the inability to leave would imply that someone either had more power in the relationship, or that someone else has power over them.

Gordopolis · 1 month

As someone who lives with severe chronic pain, you think about it...but there's something to be said about, after a certain period of time of having experienced that much pain ...while it doesn't really diminish in all of it's unholy, profane difficulty...but there comes a point at which you realize there is a gift that can be gained from it that most people go through life without ever understanding or accepting. That you've been through so much hardship, what the hell, let's see what happens...if I die, oh well, if I don't oh well. That acceptance is a gift. It's a gift of strength that is not necessarily physical, but of the will. Pain can be something that can give you an appreciation for life that few people really comprehend. I'm wager the man from the video has a fortitude in him that is rare among humanity.

...

Turns out I'm right. Wikipedia says his favorite song was "Don't stop me now" by Queen. Fuck yeah. RIP Johnny Kennedy.

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