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“Joanna thinks or assumes that Mormonism is compatible with (or intrinsically drawn toward?) a contemporary liberal-progressive agenda – and I think not.” by Chino_Blancoin exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] -1 points0 points ago

Yeah, I used to TA for Ralph Hancock and he's a piece of work (likes to stake out hard-right positions and then argue with all comers) but he's not wrong about this.

What do you guys have to say about this, and what things is he wrong about? by jonbeckman420in exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco 1 point2 points ago

He's wrong to assume that his faux rap rhyming scheme impresses this viewer. Yawn.

“I’m getting really tired of the ads for Romney campaign trips coming from this list serve,” writes one young Mormon. by Chino_Blancoin mormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 0 points1 point ago

Do you live in the D.C. area? Admittedly, geography plays into this. For example, most of my extended family is Arizona LDS and some of their email forwards are real doozies...

NY Times: Four years later, Mitt still avoids the M word by Chino_Blancoin exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 1 point2 points ago

Excellent question:

Does Mitt's sometimes huffy expectation that voters accept his current stances against abortion and gun control, to name two flips, and stop fussing over so many contrary positions in the past ... track with Mormonism’s blithe reluctance to explain controversial tenets?

Three-year-old attends Mitt Romney campaign rally. Next morning, Mom helped him bear his testimony at F&T meeting. But, hey, at least in S.C., the kids are getting involved. In Utah, political participation is pathetic due to a sense that things are over before they even happen. by Chino_Blancoin exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 0 points1 point ago

I’ve done some work with some colleagues on this to attempt to measure the effect of framing Romney as a Mormon. And it does have a clearly negative effect. What we’ve done is create little vignettes in national surveys in which we write biographical statements about Romney and add different pieces of information in. Sociologists talk about a social contact hypothesis, where contacts with a group you’re unfamiliar with helps you to become less fearful and more understanding, and to like them more. That would lead you to believe that if people know a Mormon, they might be resistant to a negative message about Romney being a Mormon.

What we find is that people who know a Mormon really well — a family member or close friend — clearly resist any kind of negative information about Romney and his religion. Because they know otherwise. People that don’t know a Mormon at all are strongly affected by that information, but you can also counter it with positive information and they’ll take that into account. What’s really interesting is that people who know a Mormon in passing — maybe a guy at the office — react strongly to the negative information and you can’t counterbalance it with positive information. We think that has something to do with the fact that Mormons are, in fact, a little different. And if you know one in passing you know enough to know that that person is a little different, but you don’t know enough to know that, although they’re different they’re probably just fine.

Shorter Quin Monson: If you have close Mormon friends, you'll disregard negative info; if you have a Mormon acquaintance, you're actually MORE likely to believe negative messages. Quin Monson's accurate re-telling of Gary Lawrence's research finding is one reason why "every member a missionary" and "I'm a Mormon" are doomed to fail. The Romney camp is smart enough to recognize this and avoids the M word like the plague.

Nutcase online do-gooder LDSNana asks: Why can't we Mormons all just get along? And why are those Internet Mormons so prideful and rebellious? by Chino_Blancoin exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 0 points1 point ago

Nah, it's not me. I think he's referring to Shades (a famous exmo board moderator from way back before Reddit).

Nutcase online do-gooder LDSNana asks: Why can't we Mormons all just get along? And why are those Internet Mormons so prideful and rebellious? by Chino_Blancoin exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 2 points3 points ago

And Daniel Peterson can't resist:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/56843-literal-and-liberal-mormons/

And the forecast calls for no shortage of nuts as long as Meridian Magazine and the Maxwell Institute are still around.

Polling firms ask "Would you be comfortable voting for a Mormon?" But no one asks "Why?" Democrats are going to say no because many accurately understand the LDS church's record on gay rights and women's issues and race is conservative. That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative. by Chino_Blancoin politics

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 2 points3 points ago

I think there's an important distinction here, though. The LDS population in the US is the most Republican of any denomination. I can find a cite if necessary, but really, that's how it is. On the other hand, U.S. Catholics tend to be concerned with social justice in ways that are different from typical Mormon politics. In important ways, Vatican =/= Catholics is more true than saying that LDS institutional leadership =/= Mormons. Except for a minority of progressive Mormons, most LDS are fairly squarely on board with their church's institutional aims, and I'm not so sure that holds true for Catholics.

Polling firms ask "Would you be comfortable voting for a Mormon?" But no one asks "Why?" Democrats are going to say no because many accurately understand the LDS church's record on gay rights and women's issues and race is conservative. That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative. by Chino_Blancoin politics

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 0 points1 point ago

Dude, chill. I'm a mod at both r/exmormon and r/mormon. Go figure that I'd x-post material that I find relevant to those subreddits.

Not sure what you're asking me to own. Collective guilt? Give me a break. I'm friends with the gal who's the subject of the interview, she's Mormon, and probably the best face of Mormonism on the public scene during this "Mormon moment" ... in other words, she doesn't name-call, she just tells it like she sees it, and even though we might not always agree, in this instance, I think she's spot on. The idea that an exmo, atheist, progressive like me wouldn't vote for a generic Mormon candidate is pernicious in my view and not based on reality. I'd vote for any Mormon who displayed a capacity to fulfill his/her role in public office in line with my own aspirations... Sadly, I can't say that Mormons can point to a reassuring track record when it comes to doing the same. So, I'll pose the question again: explain Harry Reid, explain Mitt Romney winning in MA, and explain why someone like me has zero chance of ever winning office in Utah. I mean, if you want to talk about bigotry, let's talk.

Number of faithful Mormons rapidly declining by PayLayAlein mormon

[–]Chino_Blanco -2 points-1 points ago

Yawn.

Number of faithful Mormons rapidly declining by PayLayAlein mormon

[–]Chino_Blanco -2 points-1 points ago

And it's still you quibbling when the whole point of this site is to share headlines.

Polling firms ask "Would you be comfortable voting for a Mormon?" But no one asks "Why?" Democrats are going to say no because many accurately understand the LDS church's record on gay rights and women's issues and race is conservative. That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative. by Chino_Blancoin exmormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 11 points12 points ago

If Democrats are so anti-Mormon, explain the Senate Majority Leader.

If Liberals/Progressives are so anti-Mormon, explain how Mitt Romney became governor of MA.

And if Mormons are so open-minded, explain how Utah has elected only two non-Mormon governors in nearly 116 years and has sent just one non-Mormon to Congress in the past five decades.

Polling firms ask "Would you be comfortable voting for a Mormon?" But no one asks "Why?" Democrats are going to say no because many accurately understand the LDS church's record on gay rights and women's issues and race is conservative. That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative. by Chino_Blancoin mormon

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 0 points1 point ago

If Democrats are so anti-Mormon, explain the Senate Majority Leader.

If Liberals/Progressives are so anti-Mormon, explain how Mitt Romney became governor of MA.

And if Mormons are so open-minded, explain how Utah has elected only two non-Mormon governors in nearly 116 years and has sent just one non-Mormon to Congress in the past five decades.

Polling firms ask "Would you be comfortable voting for a Mormon?" But no one asks "Why?" Democrats are going to say no because many accurately understand the LDS church's record on gay rights and women's issues and race is conservative. That's not anti-Mormon, that's anti-conservative. by Chino_Blancoin politics

[–]Chino_Blanco[S] 1 point2 points ago

If Democrats are so anti-Mormon, explain the Senate Majority Leader.

If Liberals/Progressives are so anti-Mormon, explain how Mitt Romney became governor of MA.

And if Mormons are so open-minded, explain how Utah has elected only two non-Mormon governors in nearly 116 years and has sent just one non-Mormon to Congress in the past five decades.

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