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[–]tepidpond 8 points9 points ago

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Amazing! Look Jones, we've found someone who takes Ghost Hunters seriously enough to not simply mock it!

All kidding aside: Yes, that'd likely be the most trivial and instantly testable way to disprove the idea of the dead speaking in some kind of high-pitched quiet garble. Or you could ask five randomly-chosen novices to interpret the noise. If three or more agree on what's been "said", then you consider not dismissing it as hogwash.

[–]macwelsh007 1 point2 points ago

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The problem with this idea is that the ghost hunters will simply suggest that the reason the EVP didn't show up on both recorders is because the spirit managed to only imprint it on a single recorder using its paranormal power, thus only boosting their claims of capturing spirit activity.

“Amazing, it only showed up on one recording device! So it must have been a ghost, otherwise it would have shown up on both!”

[–]tepidpond 1 point2 points ago

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You're right, of course. But if the ghost hunters are allowed to move the goal posts, then there's no point in even suggesting any kind of test whatsoever. There would be some kind of explanation proffered for any apparent disproof.

[–]nickiwest 2 points3 points ago

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I've often wondered about that. Since the TAPS team usually has a professional cameraman with the people doing "EVP work," shouldn't the pro footage corroborate the "evidence" from their handheld recorders?

[–]jherazob 2 points3 points ago* 

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Somebody made an AMA here a while ago (a search failed me, if somebody remembers it please post the link), he was the producer or something for one of those ghost hunting shows. He said that none of those shows is done seriously, they're all out to very deliberately bamboozle the poor people that go to them. So i highly suspect you won't find anything like that in there.

Edit: Found it, but the guy deleted both his account and every post on it, so unless there's some cached copy somewhere we're toast :(

[–]Captain_Midnight 2 points3 points ago

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I don't think I've ever seen them present their EVP "evidence" to a client without first telling him/her what they think it says. Thus setting the stage for the power of suggestion.

Their other favorite trick is the infrared camera. Every once in a while, they'll show a brief glimpse of a "ghost" -- that has the exact same heat signature as a living, breathing person.

Even granted that a person is willing to believe that ghosts exist, I've never ever heard of any generating heat. They should be pretty much invisible to IR detection.

It's all theater, as far as I can tell.

[–]tepidpond 1 point2 points ago

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I'd love to read this. I guess PT Barnum was right, eh?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Speaking as an audio engineer, I can tell you that constant noise (like the background "hiss" you hear from certain recordings, or the kind of hum you get from poorly grounded/electrically demanding equipment--high wattage lights and professional cameras, anyone?) is trivial to remove with professional sound editing software. Any decent (e.g. mid-range condenser) mic would have a low enough noise level and high enough dynamic range that amplifying gain and filtering noise out of a recording should not affect one's ability to understand any voices. So TAPS shouldn't have any problem getting clear EVP without a bunch of noise, considering the shit they carry around.

Furthermore, professional field recorders (Zoom H2 and the like) have two or more condenser mics built into them to pick up stereo signals. To perform the experiment you're talking about would merely require subtracting the channels from each other. Any sound picked up by both mics (like ambient noise) would be removed, anything picked up in the range of one particular mic (someone talking on the left/right side of the device, EVP maybe) would be isolated.

[–]voyetra8[S] 0 points1 point ago

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But they love the hiss. It's where the demons live!

PS= they crank the gain like a motherfucker because ghosts have laryngitis.

[–]cjdaniel 1 point2 points ago

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This will work nicely for random noise. However, a lot of the "EVP" I've heard on "paranormal investigator" recordings have sounded an awful lot like creaking in the house and other ambient noises. This method won't make a difference there.

[–]voyetra8[S] 0 points1 point ago

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sounded an awful lot like creaking

Funny, it sounded just like a guy saying "GET OUT!" to me.

[–]cjdaniel 1 point2 points ago

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In case this was meant to point out an irony -- my post was assuming they are legitimate ambient noises, but the ghost hunters forget they happened and use them as examples of EVP :-)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I wish I could remember where I read it...maybe on Cracked, but it pointed out that we know the outcome of every ghost hunter TV show before we even watch it: They find nothing conclusive.

We know this because if they did find something conclusive, you'd be hearing about it on the 6 o'clock news and not some stupid ghost hunter show.