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[–]Grackal 84 points85 points ago

Vanilla sex to getting gang banged by a bunch of black guys? I think she missed out a few steps of the 'let's tell each other our fantasies, gently' process. You would expect a bit of light bondage, porn watching and ice cubes before going for the whole interracial cuckold humiliation orgy thing. But maybe I am a too cautious judging by all the 'go for it dude' replies.

[–]RagingDean 22 points23 points ago

Yeah, the situation seems really fucking weird to me,

[–]admiral_snugglebutt 7 points8 points ago

Oh god. The phrase "interracial cuckhold humiliation orgy" made me laugh so hard. The thing that I always wonder is that, like, when I graduate and get a job in the real world, how am I supposed to take my coworkers seriously when I know that any random person I work with could be in to shit like this? It's just too surreal.

That aside though, I seriously think it's just a fantasy. At most, it's probably something she thinks she might like. It sounds like OP is getting all concerned about her likely communicating "Sometimes I think about extreme shit when I masturbate. I just want some validation that you still love me anyway."

[–]Thatenglishguy 6 points7 points ago

It's a little messed up, i couldn't take a girlfriend shagging someone else, it would be the same as cheating to me, i would feel the same as him "Am i not enough" and "Am i too boring for her" if i was in his position i would be offended and frankly it would put a strain on the relationship for me. Could even make me think twice about her, thats just me though...

[–]timothyjc 3 points4 points ago

Only telling you about this after 7 years after you get engaged is disingenuous. Some guys are into cuckolding but most people are not, so if she really can't handle a vanilla relationship she should have told you 6 years ago. Even if you discover you might be into cuckolding, it won't negate this.

[–]SexyShenanigans 2 points3 points ago

I disagree that she was trying to be disingenuous. She could have entertained this fantasy for a while but felt too nervous to bring it up. It is pretty extreme, but that's why it took her so long to say something. He asked her and she told him, which probably took a lot of guts on her part.

[–]ceej93 22 points23 points ago

personally, i can't think of anything that would piss me off more than having to watch someone else, let alone several others, fuck the shit out of the women i loved while i watched. Sounds like a fuckin nightmare to me man. Still, thats just my opinion

[–]Maxxters 73 points74 points ago

Talk it out with her. Let her know about your conflicting emotions so she can understand what page you're on. Then she can clarify why it is that she wants this and why she wants you there. Don't even think about actually playing out the fantasy in real life any time soon. That's ages from now. What you do now is talk about it and work towards getting comfortable and turned on completely by the idea. Then you add it to your fantasy play with just the two of you (talking about how you want to see her sucking on a big fat black dick while you're pounding into her, etc) until you both feel totally ready and positive about going ahead with the experience. Be honest with your feelings, set up any "rules" that you both feel like you need and then have fun with it if it gets to that point!

[–]mrthrowaway1984[S] 12 points13 points ago

Thanks for the thoughtful reply!

I guess the part I'm struggling with is if I'm comfortable with the fantasy in the first place. One side of me feels totally humiliated at the suggestion she wants to get fucked by "big dicks" but another part of me is really turned on by the idea.

In my non-horny moments, I want to shout at her and say "don't be so fucking stupid" and make it clear no dick but mine will go in her.

The other side of me is saying "That would be really hot"

I feel like if I even agree to talk to her about this, my masculinity will dwindle. I feel like if even if we talk about it, and I decide I'm not comfortable, I'll always have this hanging over my head...

[–]BadDatingAdvice 66 points67 points ago

Don't forget, it may have been just as difficult for her to say it out loud as it was for you to hear it.

Making a potentially relationship-ending statement like "I want to fuck a bunch of black guys while you watch" takes a lot of guts. She's gone out on a limb for you, it's up to you whether you embrace her trust or not.

Try to separate your feelings about this particular fantasy from the issue of communicating about your sexual desires. She opened up, that's what you wanted, don't make her regret doing that.

It's OK if you're not comfortable with her fantasy. Talk about how you feel about that particular fantasy, but whatever you do, don't recriminate. Treat her trust with respect and she'll return it in spades. That's the way forward here.

[–]sinkist 45 points46 points ago

This is really fucking great relationship advice. You're a disgrace to your username.

[–]DJ_Velveteen -2 points-1 points ago

Can't upvote enough.

To OP: I understand that you feel like your "masculinity will dwindle" if you let go of enough control of your fiance to let her embrace her fantasy, but seriously: if you man up and realize that she'll love you more if you let her be who she is, kinks included, you're more of a man than you would be if you were to really act out this "no dick but mine will go in her" impulse.

[–]Graped_in_the_mouth -1 points0 points ago

Yeah, no. Don't pretend that all women have the same brain, and share a single gender psychology. It is entirely possible that letting your wife sleep with other men can lead to a breakdown in the marriage - it can and does happen frequently. I'm really sick of this attitude from the polyamory crowd, implying that

1) Polyamory is for everyone.

2) It is a superior life choice.

3) All women want it, and none would judge you as less of a man for allowing it.

This is, honestly, just patently false. It's not for everyone, it's not superior, and some women - and men - will have their opinion of you changed if you watch them have a gangbang.

[–]ratbastid 14 points15 points ago

In my non-horny moments, I want to shout at her and say "don't be so fucking stupid" and make it clear no dick but mine will go in her.

The other side of me is saying "That would be really hot"

And you should know, there are people in this world for whom that exact tension is, in itself, a fetish.

[–]admiral_snugglebutt 1 point2 points ago

I feel like there is a fetish for most things. Enough people like to choke themselves while masturbating that we have a word for it. Having sex while covered with pie is an option on mojoupgrade. Sex is impressively diverse.

Also, to the OP, her fetish could always be worse? And by worse, I mean something that is either illegal or doesn't turn you on at all. Confusing and sexy sounds much better than just confusing.

[–]solinv 3 points4 points ago

Talk to her about it. However, this kind of thing is something both of you have to be totally sure about all the time. When you're horny and not, or it'll destroy the relationship.

[–]ggggbabybabybaby 7 points8 points ago

The humiliation might be part of her fantasy. Like she wants to have that power over men and over you. If you're not comfortable with that then you're certainly allowed to push back.

All in all, this is a pretty extreme fantasy and one that you have to build up to over months or years or even a decade. This is not a switch you flip by the end of the week or a month after the wedding.

If the thought itself is hot but the reality is scary, tell her that. Tell her you'd be ok with talking it through but you are a long way away from ever being ok with letting anyone else into the bedroom. Maybe for now you fuck her while you talk back and forth about all the big black dicks she's imagining. Later you can can add toys to better simulate it or you can masturbate in the corner while she tries to take on as many toys as she can. There are plenty of ways to entertain the fantasy without ever introducing a whole bunch of strange dudes into your bedroom. And maybe that's all she even wants. You have to talk it out, tell her your boundaries and trust that she'll respect your fears and the commitment you've made to each other.

[–]mrthrowaway1984[S] -1 points0 points ago

Thanks for the advice.

I definitely think the "take it slow" advice is good. I still have this huge mental barrier about even entertaining the idea with her

On one hand, I want her to be able to fully explore her sexuality and be satisfied. If I'd suggested something similar to her, I'd want her to at least consider it.

On the other, I feel like even discussing this idea with her will forever change the dynamic of our relationship.

I guess I think about myself as fairly alpha. I've been out with her and had situations where I've had to chase guys away from her (e.g. I came back from having a smoke and there were a couple of douches trying to hit on her) and I guess she's always liked that. I am worried that by entertaining the idea of cuckolding myself, that she'll view me as less as a protector.

I guess at this point I'm having hypothetical arguments with myself, and the smart move is so explain all this to her. I just don't want her to think that by talking to her about this that I'm any less of a "man"

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[–]admiral_snugglebutt 1 point2 points ago

Not a dumb question. His phrasing was that she wants to try new things AND that this is her fantasy. The two could theoretically be separate, especially if that was her phrasing and not his. I'd be inclined to think that it is just a fantasy, since it's pretty far out there for a couple that doesn't have a lot of kink already. I've shared plenty of fantasies with my partner that I don't care to do anything about. Sometimes it's just nice to have your partner truly accept you, right down to the crazy things you fantasize about.

[–]vivelesexe -1 points0 points ago

I'm in a relationship for 14 years now (she's 34 I'm 35) and we never had the occasion to do it with one or another partner. I'm the one who thought about a mfm. I suggested and she said no, no big deal. She asked what was my pleasure from looking her getting fuck by another one. My awnser is clear: I love her, I love when she as a lot of fun in bed, and I wish I could see her have this special moment since she has not been fuck by another man for nearly 15 years...

I would like to keep eye contact with her while she is taken from behind and see her move an moan...

I never thought of beeing humiliated... I feel more in control in fact... I let her try things...

My two cents!

[–]blavek 7 points8 points ago

I'm not a girl but I doubt that the racial incentive has anything to do with penis size. And generally a gangbang would be to humiliate her and satisfy a masochistic need she has. Just a thought. But you definitely need to ask her specific questions to satisfy your needs. I would suggest writing them all down and talking with her again. Also just because a person has a fantasy it doesnt mean it needs to be acted on and there may be other ways to satisfy some of those needs w/o posting an add on drains list for 12 black dudes to defile your wife while you watched. Also get some gangbang porn and watch it with her. Find out what is going through her mind during that. You'll learn a lot through good communication about it and maybe casual exploration that doesn't include other people.

[–]allmyblackclothes 1 point2 points ago

I don't have stats, but plenty of women have a gangbang fantasy that is more empowering (all these guys taking care of my sexual needs) than humiliating.

I agree about finding some porn (there is plenty of it) to explore this fantasy. kink.com has a gangbangs site which is quite good, though it is bondage oriented which may or may not be your thing.

[–]admiral_snugglebutt 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, writing it down or discussing it online seems like a good idea. Whenever I want to talk about sex things with my SO but don't feel comfortable saying it out loud, I'll get on my laptop and IM him on facebook or skype. It removes a volatile emotional component of the discussion and makes it a lot easier to just talk.

[–]Maxxters 13 points14 points ago

I'll always have this hanging over my head...

Right now it seems like a lot. But give it time. It's really not as bad as it feels like it is at the moment. This is your fiance. You need to be able to trust one another and feel comfortable sharing things with each other without taking it personally or feeling threatened by it.

In no way does her fantasy say "I'm not happy with you" or "you're not good enough at sex for me". Not one little bit. She simply has a fantasy in her mind of being gangbanged by black guys. I can't speak for her in terms of what exactly it is that turns her on about the situation, but it's usually a mixture of having these men wanting you so bad that they just take you as well as it being a bit of rape play. She gets to play some rough guy's "slut". I highly doubt that her wanting you to be there has to do with the cuckold fantasy of being humiliated. It's probably her wanting to see you turned on by watching other guys fuck the shit out of her with your permission.

Either way, talk to her about it to figure it all out. Don't in any way make her feel bad about this. Support her, even if you're not comfortable with it happening (ie. even if it doesn't happen, be supportive and find a way to make this fantasy happen with just the two of you in role play or something like that).

[–]darvinIsm 1 point2 points ago

I'd say start small - try to role play - watch while she fucks herself with a dildo or something and pretend it's a guy - then work your way up to a gang bang.

The fact that this is humiliating and shameful is probably part of what turns you (and her) on about this - power exchange plays a big part in most sexual fantasies. In that sense - the black dick inside her might as well be a dildo - just a tool to fulfill your mutual fantasies - as long as both of you can think of it that way. But it's important to separate fantasy from reality - something like this - after the fact might be impossible for you guys to live with after you get off - so be very sure about your sexual identity, her sexual identity and be sure that you're comfortable with it. There's nothing wrong with being a submissive lover if you enjoy it.

[–]wolgan 0 points1 point ago

I'd say to start small

So 12 Asian guys as an opener?

So sorry... It was right there... I couldn't resist...

[–]allmyblackclothes -1 points0 points ago

Agreed. And realize that as you work you way up slowly, you may enjoy the journey more than the destination and not get all the way to living out the completely fantasy.

[–]DaGreatPenguini 1 point2 points ago

Not to dismiss what you're going through, but imagine if the shoe was on the other foot: you're asked what you want and you reply with what most guys would say -" I want to be the center of attraction as forty Amazonian warriors lick hot fudge off of every inch of my body, bringing me to the throes of ecstasy while a troop of midgets sing Carmina Burana."

In your mind, it has NOTHING to do with any dissatisfaction with your SO; it's all about the kink you've been fostering since you were a twelve-year-old mouth breather sallying forth on your first wankfest. Alas, your SO doesn't think this way - she's caught up in her own narrative: self-confidence issues, fears, hopes, desires, kinks, past successes, past failures, etc.

Your SO's fantasy isn't about you, it's about her. It's also (probably) not a direct request, but something to bring elements of into her and your sex play. Others have mentioned good ideas (dirty talk, gang bang porn, swing clubs, etc), but should be done with the both partner's consent and feelings in mind. Some fantasies should remain fantasies, though, because we can't handle the ramifications of the actions.

Good luck, and don't take you SO's fantasies personally - they're not about you, they're about her!

[–]sexychippy -2 points-1 points ago

Some men really enjoy watching their partner being taken by others. I actually know a couple who do this, and the BF video tapes it! Maybe you guys can start with some role playing and then see if she still feels this need. I would also suggest you check her browser history to see if craigslist's nsa section comes up. She may have been considering this for a while already, and that's the most likely place to find takers.

[–]daedalus1982 5 points6 points ago

Maxxters do we have a running tally yet of all the relationships you've saved? We really should.

From someone that has never needed your help (yet) but always admired you for helping others, thank you. This world is better with you here.

[–]mounini 2 points3 points ago

I was thinking exactly the same! Thanks again!

[–]Maxxters 0 points1 point ago

Thanks so much for that! I've gotta say, the PM's I get are pretty fucking heartlifting. I know many people here aren't fans of what I'm trying to do in this community, so I really appreciate comments like yours.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

Then you add it to your fantasy play with just the two of you (talking about how you want to see her sucking on a big fat black dick while you're pounding into her, etc) until you both feel totally ready and positive about going ahead with the experience.

You are bang on! I was thinking about it in the abstract, but little steps like this are totally required.

My GF would like me to fuck her in a sex club while others watch. Going to a sex club isn't something I've even done. She can be so convincing though, and now I am pumped to do it! Your method was key.

[–]allmyblackclothes 0 points1 point ago

Fucking in a sex club was more fun than I expected, go for it.

[–]calafragilistic 0 points1 point ago

Bro, you always have the answer. Mad props sista.

[–]admiral_snugglebutt 0 points1 point ago

It seems highly possible that this is just a fantasy and not something she actually wants to act out.

[–]countingthedays 55 points56 points ago

Terrible idea. If you're not 100% interested in going with this, you'll regret it later.

[–]Jofat 8 points9 points ago

Yeah, there may be some people who could go in for something like this. For me just hearing this story was NOPE NOPE NOPE. shudder

[–]mc57127 34 points35 points ago

That'll be a great story to tell the grand kids one day.

[–]ceej93 3 points4 points ago

someone needs to make this a plot of an episode of how i met your mother

[–]allmyblackclothes -1 points0 points ago

Fanfic

[–]photogc 15 points16 points ago

This is for sure one of those situations where you went into this thinking you could add some seasoning to your relationship cookbook, and instead your wife ordered a meal off of a menu from some foreign land that you don't know how to read the language from.

This is a fantasy that's dangerous in a lot of ways. Aside from finding willing participants that are safe and respectful, there's a load of pitfalls for the couple in question. For one, if you've never even included a 'third' into the scenario it's going to be hard to handle a group of them. Also, she's your fiance. If this was a girl you were dating, but not particularly planning on spending your life with, then as long as you felt comfortable you could go for it. There are a ton of negative ways this could go down if you go in with even the smallest bit of hesitation; all of a sudden you could get cold feet but are too intimidated to stop it so you go through with it on the day, or worse she does despite you asking to stop, or you say nothing to not embarrass her or you and just think you'll get into it, or everything goes well when she's fooling around with them, but then they penetrate her and suddenly you get a jealous pang, or everything is fine while they are kissing, but suddenly she kisses you, or everything is great while you have your dick in hand and then when you cum, and they cum instead it's just a huge regret.

Or, you could go in there, see some really wild gangbang action, help her get cleaned up and cuddle her after.

There's a huge leap from one set of consequences to another. And you really, really, really need to talk out this entire fantasy. And sometimes, some fantasies need to stay fantasies. There's tons of ways you can recreate this as well without involving others. Get a ton of dildo's and blindfold her. Put on a porn from brazzers or xtube that is of a gangbang and cover her ears with headphones. (Look into cuckolding videos too for audio.) Set up a contraption of sorts. It could be wild without actually involving anyone. With some suction cups and such you could really make it feel like other bodies.

It's an easy way to slowly go up to it. Or just simple dirty talk in the moment. If after you cum you have regrets than I think it's fair to be honest with her about it. If this is something she has to do, then you might need to rethink marriage right away.

And you for sure should NOT get married then try this. It should be done before any huge commitments.

Good luck with this man. This is a pretty huge fantasy to get put in. But after reading some of your comments, you seem to be bit of a cuck yourself. Mentioning that it does turn you on. For the majority of guys imagining their lady getting banged by a ton of guys is an immediate no. The fact you think it's hot makes you already half way there.

However, just because that's the fantasy doesn't mean you shouldn't take babysteps. Slowly go up. Start perhaps with a normal convo, then graduate to dirty talk, continue to the possible toy idea I mentioned above, then maybe if all is good invite one guy into the bedroom and the three of you play together, then in the moment if you're digging it, sit back and watch. After that graduate to the multiple partners and you involved, then... the gangbang!

Again, goodluck. I'm pretty GGG but would have a hard time fulfilling my girl's fantasy if this was hers. To be honest, I don't think I could. But I'd do my best to try and give her the next best thing.

[–]Jofat 2 points3 points ago

Great practical advice, listen to this guy OP!

[–]allmyblackclothes -2 points-1 points ago

Generally good advice, but not sure I buy that you have to delay marriage until you resolve this.

First, if you're getting married, you should be prepared to work through sexual fantasies and even harder things (raising kids, money problems, sickness, family, infidelity). Neither of you is going to stop changing because you get married, so acting like you can resolve everything ahead of time is naive. Of course, if you think you can't work through this, then that is something to fix before you get married. But knowing you can work this (and other things) out is more important than completely working it out before marriage.

Second, working up to this is something that could take years, if you go slowly and enjoy the journey. Putting it on some kind of premarital bucket list could make you rush and increase the likelihood of things going badly.

[–]ShaneMBerney 6 points7 points ago

run

[–]JoseFernandes -1 points0 points ago

...for the hills.

[–]JoseFernandes 13 points14 points ago

When something reads like cuckold erotica it usually is.

[–]Hesperus 7 points8 points ago

Bingo!

r/sex is silly.

[–]cantonista 5 points6 points ago

I can't believe people are responding to this like it's a serious question. This is clearly a guy with a cuckold fetish who wants to hear other people talk about it. There is no fiance, or if there is, she's not the one who brought up the gangbang idea.

[–]wawaeatfresh 18 points19 points ago

Are you sure she's not trolling you?

[–]wildpeaches 9 points10 points ago

Sometimes I have very exaggerated fantasies. And, they are just that, fantasies...harmless.

Desires. Those are an entirely different animal. If your wife is really feeling the desires lf being gangbanged, keep communication going. Maybe do some sex play where she's blindfolded and you touch her and have sex with her only to pull away and them return again. She can pretend you're different men.

Just a thought. Hope you keep exploring.

[–]silverscreemer 8 points9 points ago

Holy shit. What a bombshell.

I don't have any advice to give, just wanted to let you know I share in your befuddlement.

[–]I_Miss_Scrubs 2 points3 points ago

Consider me conservative, but I'd be hugely offended if my gf wanted to get gangbanged. I don't see the attractiveness there. But to each their own. Happy sexing!

[–]PoseidonsDick 8 points9 points ago

Just to add a dissenting opinion about the whole black/big dick thing:

I am a happily married female. My husband and I were talking about our pornographic preferences today. It's not all the time, but sometimes I enjoy watching black dude fucking tiny white girl porn. I can safely say it has nothing to do with the dick because my husband is very well-endowed (to the point of pain sometimes!). The whole black dude porn turning me on thing is just because black dudes can be hot! It really has nothing to do with my husband, or his dong.

Don't get me wrong, I don't know your fiance and maybe it does have something to do with dicks, but there's a pretty good chance that she just digs the idea of doing black dudes rather than it being anything about dicks.

[–]emwbiogeek22 3 points4 points ago

In my personal opinion, I think it's normal and healthy to have fantasies, but that doesn't mean that they have to be acted on. You are in way to serious of a relationship with this person to handle watching her get fucked by a bunch of other men. If she wanted to get gang banged, she should have done that before she became committed to you. She needs to just accept it for what it is, a fantasy and nothing more.

[–]lananaroux 6 points7 points ago*

I don't even know a whole group of black guys.

[–]solinv 1 point2 points ago

First off, Maxxters advice is really good.

Second, if you're not 110% comfortable with it, a good way to act it out is to get a bunch of dildos, secure them around the bed (so they're surrounding her and maybe one is penetrating her) then fuck her.

[–]StoicMeerkat 2 points3 points ago

see if you can work in an orgy with a bunch of girls while she watches. civil rights!

[–]genericuser1289 5 points6 points ago

If you're a real man you'll listen to the part of your brain that feels humiliated, if you're a pussy who wants to be taken advantage of and ruin your girl's image of you listen to the part that feels turned on.

[–]callmegoat 1 point2 points ago

You can't hold it against her, considering you inquired about her interests. Sit down and talk with her, see how interested and serious she is. If it's something she really wants, as a lover you should be willing to accommodate her, however she should be willing to compromise on details as well. You say it turns you on, but there could be two very distinct reasons for that. Are you turned on by the thought of sharing her, or are you turned on by the humiliation aspect? If it's the former, consider telling her you want to be an active part of said gangbang, if it's the latter, then figure out if it's something you'd actually want.

[–]quiettimes 1 point2 points ago

You don't seem comfortable with this, almost like you're trying to talk yourself into it. If so, That's not a good way to enter into this and most likely would lead to resentment later.

[–]quickie_ss 1 point2 points ago

This was pretty easy to fap to.

[–]hedobot 1 point2 points ago

Here's my two cents...I say, don't do it bro...If you are having second thoughts about it now, they will only multiply and leave you in a state of bitterness if you let her go through with it. You love this woman, right? How can you even entertain the idea that you'll be able to watch her banged by a couple of black dudes(let alone any other dude for that matter)? I think it will crush you emotionally... What if she wants to do it again? What if you are even ashamed to look at her after such a thing? Think wisely my friend...very wisely.

[–]PeterCHayward 1 point2 points ago

Whatever happens, make sure you come back and let us know!

[–]rivermandan 2 points3 points ago

" Also, the fact that she specified "black" guys implies she's looking for big dicks"

umm, that isn't actually true, yeah, some black guys have enormous dicks, but so does every race

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points ago*

its a shit test. no real man would allow this to happen. it devalues you to the lowest level imaginable, to the point where i doubt your relationship would be able to survive such an event due to the mutual residual feelings of guilt, shame and anger.

tell her how you really feel about this. dont sacrifice your manhood for a womans pleasure, unless you get something out of this yourself. for instance she has to watch you fuck the same number of black chicks, or something.

[–]iLove_JennyTalia 5 points6 points ago

Why is this getting downvotes? It's completely relevant to the conversation and it's just an opinion. Fuck , people.

[–]JoseFernandes 7 points8 points ago

for instance she has to watch you fuck the same number of black chicks, or something.

Yeah, fucking all those black chicks with those huge big black vaginas.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

point taken, and i'd have to agree with you, tit for tat will only damage a relationship. i guess i was trying to demonstrate how the same situation would appear from the opposite angle so perhaps the ladies can empathize with how a guy would feel.

my first instinct when reading this scenario was, wtf, what kind of guy would do that, so i overreacted with my rhetoric. I just feel like its a really bad idea, especially if the guy is on the fence about such a scenario.

not worth it in my opinion. However, on the other side of the coin, i could see how the fantasy could be field tested in the bedroom, and developed to the point where the guy gives the green light once he wants it as much as she does, and is psychologically ready to accept the scenario without bitterness, or discontent that could grow into bitterness. this in my opinion, is the ONLY way this should happen. otherwise, i don't beleive it would work.

[–]Daysprung 1 point2 points ago*

Sorry but you were right the first time. If she's not outright testing him to see if he's enough of a man for her with fake questions I'd be very worried about this situation.

Sometimes fantasies are fantasies for a reason. You don't have to indulge every single one and especially not at certain times of your life where it will damage your relationship. If fantasies are more important than reality to you, maybe you aren't mature enough for a relationship.

That's not to say all fantasies are bad but think about it OP, were you a cuckold to begin with? That's exactly what this is. She doesn't want you there for protection because really you couldn't do anything anyway. Don't force something like this on yourself unless you don't value the relationship.

[–]genericuser1289 1 point2 points ago

I agree completely, it sounds like she just wants to see what he would say "if that was her fantasy." I'd honestly be concerned about marrying someone who said that just because I would be so sure they were trying to play mind games or doing petty Q&A tests to determine suitability.

[–]deadbaby -1 points0 points ago

Hi, welcome to r/sex...we have this awesome little sidebar over to the left that will inform you about just how poorly you've followed our guidelines.

Also: What's a "real man"? Can you define that for me?

[–]TNAgent 3 points4 points ago

I think you've stepped into the minefield that is mojoupgrade but you didn't make it out the other side. There are a lot of things on there I find intriging but the mine you've stepped on is one of the reasons I don't ever see myself doing the test with my SO.

If she said she wanted to be done by 5 black guys while I watched the only possible response I could foresee would be GTFO.

[–]ColmDawson 1 point2 points ago

I haven't done the test, but isn't the point that if she said she was into that and you said you weren't, you wouldn't find out?

[–]abadgaem 0 points1 point ago

/r/cuckold and /r/hotwife

Just in case you want to do some research.

[–]ghostofanimus 0 points1 point ago

Fantasy does not equal reality.

Do your homework.

[–]underattack86 1 point2 points ago

"Fantasy is reality." - George Clinton

[–]youni89 0 points1 point ago

hmm ok... wait. wat. WAT. WAT THE SHIT?!

[–]SexyShenanigans 0 points1 point ago

On the other hand, I would be lying if I said the whole idea of seeing her being ravaged by a group of guys didn't turn me on a bit. The racial aspect also seems to add a bit of spice to the whole thing.

This is good to hear. It means your kinks line up, and if you can get past some societal conditioning, you and she may be able to enjoy a good, exciting time .

So Reddit - advice is needed! My fiance was good enough to talk to me about this shit before doing anything...but now I don't know what to do with the information and I don't know which side of my brain to listen to. The part that feels humiliated and degraded, or the part that feels a bit turned on.

First things first. Make it clear that you appreciate that she was willing to open up to you about a fantasy. It sounds like this took a lot of guts for her to do. Make sure she knows that you want to pursue some of her fantasies with her, but that you'll need some time to wrap your head around it, and that you want to explore safe ways to do what she wants.

Tell her too, that you are also turned on by this idea. This will not only validate her but help her feel the sincerity in your appreciation.

Then explain the negative emotions you felt. Ask her if there are any other fantasies she nervous about bringing up for fear of negative connotations. Get it all out in the open while communication is still golden.

Then, be willing to negotiate. I don't blame you for feeling inadequate, but boredom is not where such gang banger fantasies originate from. try to pinpoint with her exactly what it is aobu6t this fantasy that gets her going, and then discuss ways the two of you could simulate that. Is it the force? The exotic person? Be as open as possible, and encourage her to do the same.

I'd encourage you and your fiancee check out some of the kinkier communities on reddit--bdsmcommunity is a good place to start, if only because we are very welcoming as well as creative.

[–]admiral_snugglebutt 0 points1 point ago

boredom is not where such gang banger fantasies originate from

Fact. It's probably something she's had for a while but wasn't comfortable communicating.

[–]lbchdrdr 0 points1 point ago

It's entirely possible that she's fucking with you. She might just want to see how you'll react to something that seems so out of left field. So you should do what Maxxters said, you pretty much can't go wrong with that approach.

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[–]allmyblackclothes 0 points1 point ago

Agree with everyone on "black dudes doesn't mean big dicks." My favorite citation: According to one of the directors for Blacks on Blondes (a relevant website), "Black dudes, as a whole, are not any larger than white dudes." http://www.ishootporn.com/128/penis-smaller-than-5-inches/

[–]VileDevastation 0 points1 point ago

I'd say no, but I have problems with sharing.

[–]okcupiddom 0 points1 point ago

My fiance and I have just taken up group sex. We are trying to get a gangbang together for our wedding night. I was worried I would have some pangs of jealousy seeing her with another guy, but I have none.

Whatever you do I wish you well.

[–]tim50kg -3 points-2 points ago

I'm old school as hell, screw that shit, I'd tell her to gtfo, been with my fiance for 7 years, turns 8 years in March, same as our sex life, pretty basic with positions and foreplay, sounds just like us, but we both like it, if she came to me with that, I would not even think about it, I would tell her to gtfo and not even think twice, some stupid shit like that. I'm only 22 and my girl has been my only girl, that shit is crazy and totally fucking stupid. I might be the only one to say this but I had to say something since it sounded almost like my relationship.....fuck that, tell her hell no and leave......

[–]thebardingreen 0 points1 point ago

We have this belief we grow up with in our culture that if our lovers are attracted to other people it means they don't want us/we're not enough.

All you have to do is look at your own psychology to realize this is a complete fallacy. And leads you to make decisions based on beliefs that are just plain wrong. But we often won't even consider that they might be long enough to realize what we're doing.

Second, we sort of take it for granted that we get to (often kindly and reasonably) blackmail our lovers "No dick but mine will go in you" with the understanding being that the relationship would be over if it did.

But why is that rule necessary? Is it?

I can't answer those questions for you. But I naturally am inclined in very much the opposite direction from them and I sort of resent society shoving them down my throat all the time.

That's why I hang out on /r/polyamory. XD

[–]strange_rants 0 points1 point ago

Regardless of society's views, his fiancee did kind of blindside him with this request.

I'm sure that even on r/polyamory they recommend a little more tact then, "I want to get gangbanged by multiple black dudes, while you watch," as the opening conversation about multiple partners.

A MMF threesome might have been a better place to start, with regards to comfort zones and such.

[–]thebardingreen -2 points-1 points ago

Eh. Maybe so. But it's a hard enough topic for most people. I think its commendable she was honest about her fantasies.

[–]EllieTuttle -1 points0 points ago

It sounds like you're interested. I understand that fantasies can be uncomfortable/humiliating to think about sometimes, but if you think you'd enjoy it, then what's the problem?

[–]Cptn_Janeway 0 points1 point ago

How would you feel about it after it happened? Can you imagine how you would feel towards her and yourself? If you are truly okay with it, then go for it. If there is ANY doubt I say don't do it and you guys need to talk this out.

Though as a black male, it feels like I just let down my fellow brothers.

[–]skinninja -2 points-1 points ago

naw ya didnt. we good man. plenty more out there craving us for some reason! dark skinned brothas in this year?

[–]Oh-god -1 points0 points ago

It's not her fault she has this fantasy, please don't take it too personal. Probably took guts for her to admit it. Doesn't mean anything is wrong with you.

[–]jggm2009 -1 points0 points ago

How is it clear she is waiting for an answer? Is she like "And...?" or what? LOL. Tell her that is not what you had in mind. Yes, I am turned on by this fantasy as well. My wife gets off on that. I'm not ready for all of that but I'm not opposed to it either. Dude its just a fantasy unless both of you decide differently. Its more about sharing the experience as a couple unless those other naughty feelings surface. . If your woman loves you, enjoys being with you, respects you and you guys are in love it could work.

[–]thekadar81 -1 points0 points ago

If you decidento go for this, maybe start small to test the waters. Start with a MFM threesome or just watch her fuck another guy. See how that affects the relationship.

[–]manolito62 -1 points0 points ago

first thing you will listen from reddit after the "party" is done: "pics or did not happen?"

[–]nooseream -1 points0 points ago

Things like this are better left to fantasy I think. Once you let the genie out of the bottle, you won't be able to put it back in. As another in this thread said, once you're not horny anymore your decision making might change as you'll have to live with your fiance for the rest of your life with the knowledge she did it since you seem to be uncomfortable with it. However, since you're posting on here you seem a little adventurous so really its up to you. Ultimately we can only advise - and remember that the posters here dont have to live with your life decision; you do.

[–]LokiTheFerret -1 points0 points ago

All in all i think you should focus on the fact she wants you to be there. No matter how much you trust her, she very well could have walked into a black bar and asked several black guys to take her out back and rail her. SHE COULD HAVE could have but she made it a point to ask you to be there.Which A. means she wants you to see to humiliate you (far easyer done with a camera and the suddeness of it would make it worse then you being there) or B. she like the idea of being used but your approval and presence is what makes it hot.

I would say talk it over with her more, focus on what should happen if one of you decideds to end it. Thats an indicator, if she wants to end it the second you or her say no more then it about you not about them. If she wants you to leave if you dont like it then its not about you and you have to tell her you dont accept that.

Dont get me wrong i hate the whole "talk it out" option, but she is being open with you and you must not fault her for it or it will tell her you want her to lie. But if you cant stand it (I count in case you wanted to know where im comeing from) then you have to tell her, and remember it if she ever veto's a request from you.

Think balence. Because if someone isnt watching the scales then you or her will be feeling the effects without knowing how to fix it and it will ruin you.

P.S. she may have "Said" black guys but that doesnt mean big dicks. it means she wants a seperation from that and your normal sex life. If she is willing to request a gangbang then she is willing to request big dicks plain and simple, but you could ask her to present her case on Reddit as well and it would make being open easyer for her.

[–]PunoSuerte -2 points-1 points ago

If you're fine with throwing away any idea that you'll have a monogamous relationship with her, go ahead. Different strokes for different folks.

[–]LarStyle -1 points0 points ago

It's something worth exploring, but because it's with a significant other i'd be sure to choose people neither of you would ever associate with again after that one interaction for a variety of reasons-- through legal means or otherwise, depending on where you live and what you believe i suppose.

[–]wynyx -1 points0 points ago

If I were you, I'd be tentatively willing to explore the idea, with two caveats: I would want to work up to it (starting with swinging and threesomes), and I would want to get as much as I gave (i.e., if she got gangbanged while I watched, I'd want her to help me pick up girls to play with).

I'm not saying you should do it, mind you. It's not a simple question.

[–]allmyblackclothes -1 points0 points ago

Be careful with the quid pro quo: If you're only doing it because you think you're going to get back something of equal value, and you are disappointed in the thing you get (e.g. turns out you don't like fucking other women, or you fail at picking up girls even with her help) you will end up resenting the situation, which is to be avoided.

Not that you shouldn't expect her to be GGG for some of what you are into. Just don't get into a mode of trading X for Y. Which is a good principle for marriage in general, not just sex.

[–]wynyx -1 points0 points ago

I think you're right, my advice isn't good. But I don't see how I would do it any other way. I'm shallow and I can't just wish my insecurity away. If a girl I'm involved with fucks a bunch of other people, I need to do it too. I don't really know why I feel that way, but I do.

[–]koiboy -1 points0 points ago

56 comments an no-one has mentioned mandingos? http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-sex/mandingo-trailer

[–]swested -1 points0 points ago

Um...I'd say keep this one a fantasy for a while. It'll probably turn out better for all involved.

[–]kingkaos69B -1 points0 points ago

Ok, I only want to say this to you: The fact the she wants black men doesn´t necesarily means she wants big dicks. Believe me, I LOVE black dudes but I DO NOT like big dicks. Maybe is the interracial component.

[–]Lothrazar -1 points0 points ago

Ask around in /r/polyamory/

[–]rybomf -1 points0 points ago

i think we can all agree on this

[–]ICEFARMER -1 points0 points ago

And you've never had fantasies of multiple women At the same time? Huge breasted, goddesses of an insatiable nature? Fantasies are fantasies. You may have some that could make her feel uncomfortable. The extremes of what we can desire in our minds. It's rare that they come to fruition and even if they do it's rare that they turn out to be as good as the fantasy.

It seems like she may want to spice things up a bit. I wouldn't be down for my wife getting it from other dudes either but there are things you can definitely try to spice it up if you want. Tell her the multiple dude fantasy isn't something that can be done but you want to try do something to spice it up for her benefit. Try out new toys, role playing, etc. If she wants to try a multiple dude fantasy sans the other dude get some toys (dildos and vibrators,a Sybian would be awesome) that she can use/you can use on her while you have sex. You can change positions and BE the different dudes in the fantasy. It could be a lot of fun. You are the one man gang bang. (As for not being black, you can tan and dim the lights. I've got no other good one there.)

If you are worried abut the size of your dick don't be stupid. Only surgery can help there. It focus on upping your skills. Not just the way you fuck here but how well you can use your mouth and hands. If you can make her come multiple times before you stick your dick in you are in for a great time and so is she.

[–]conjectureandhearsay -2 points-1 points ago

Are you black? Is she? You never said. Well, you did say your sex life was vanilla, but still ...

[–]Cloud_Tiger 0 points1 point ago

Considering that he implies that he's insecure and he thinks the men being black adds spice to the fantasy, he is most definitely white.

[–]HitGrassWinSalad -1 points0 points ago

Why are black and white the only options here? I agree that he must not be black (based on what he has said), but couldn't he be Asian, or Latino, or a whole host of other options?

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You only live once....my wife sleeps with other men and I would welcome her to have a gang bang. I dont get jealous about it I get massivley turned on. Its not for everyone,but maybe start small. Like a threesome or something.

[–]monkeyvoodoo -3 points-2 points ago

Just do it and get it over with. She wants to try it, and you're curious to see it. From here out, if you do it, it's done and you have a new topic of conversation for a bit, at the least. If you don't, you'll both wonder about it the rest of your lives.

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[–]callmegoat 9 points10 points ago

I can't even imagine what a terrible place the world would be if people actually lived like there wasn't a tomorrow.

[–]Daysprung 11 points12 points ago

Rape. Lots of rape.

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