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[–][deleted] 72 points73 points ago

If sex is a definite 'yes' for her and a definite 'no' for you, this relationship will not work out. You are better off being friends.

[–]elasto 4 points5 points ago

When one person wants sex, and the other doesn't, this causes major problems, and the relationship usually ends. That's just a fact. Because if someone doesn't get their major needs met, it all ends.

Pairing people together means they can meet each others' needs. If someone is not getting their needs met, that is a problem.

The three top things couples fight about are:

  1. Sex
  2. Finances
  3. Kids. How to raise them, how many to have, when to have them, etc.

As you can see, these top 3 things couples fight about indicate major needs for one or more people in the relationship.

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

I know its not a "definite" no for me, but I am not sure how much of a big deal it is for her. It's not that I won't, if it is a big deal for her, but I'd rather not make it a sizable part of our relationship.

[–]dcolt 46 points47 points ago

So basically, intercourse with her would be pity sex on your part? (I'm exaggerating of course, but less than you think.)

If that's the case, sex is going to be unsatisfactory for her regardless of frequency. Sex with a partner who's never interested is soul-crushing.

[–]Purplecutie 1 point2 points ago

Definitely. Soul crushing as in it makes you feel like shit. I know the feeling :(

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

Thanks, I'll try to keep that in mind.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points ago

Sexual incompatibility is a major relationship issue, see r/deadbedrooms for proof.

I think you should be discussing this with your girlfriend and asking her what she wants from the sexual side of your relationship and do this sooner rather than later. You should also ask yourself that question, because you shouldn't have to force yourself to want sex with your partner. If these two things are incompatible, it's not going to work.

May I suggest a cross post to the lovely folks at r/sex for more suggestion?

[–]milphey 0 points1 point ago

OSO True.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 3 points4 points ago

Asking someone to spend their life without sex is a pretty tall order. The vast majority of modern humans will not go for that, although at least you're being honest up front.

[–]hydrocephalitic 0 points1 point ago

Maybe she's going out with you because she's really a lesbian and hasn't quite come around to it yet.

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[–]xendrillion[S] 4 points5 points ago

I will not to hold onto my virginity, as chastity is not my intent. Chastity is where an individual intentionally refrains from sexual acts. I simply have no interest or desire to have sex. As long as this holds true, I would rather be in a relationship where sex is not a part of it. I am not sure if this will last, but this is simply my feelings on the matter at this point in time.

[–]HerDirtyLittleSecret 0 points1 point ago

How are you defining sex in this context?

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

I am defining 'sex' as any sort of sexual act between two people. I apologize if that was unclear.

[–]HerDirtyLittleSecret 3 points4 points ago

So any sort of genital contact? Just wanted to be clear.

To answer your question, I think you'd get away without sex if she were a virgin. I think her being a sexual being and you being adverse to it spells doom for the relationship.

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

Yes, as in any sort of genital contact.

[–]Woetren 0 points1 point ago

Kissing? (not included in your definition, but I wonder)

[–]xendrillion[S] 0 points1 point ago

Kissing is not included in my definition.

[–]blackberrydoughnuts 6 points7 points ago

Have you told her you're asexual and you'd rather avoid it if you can? And that you'd rather not let her have sex with anyone else either? You really need to talk with her about this, as soon as possible.

For the 99% of people who aren't asexual, sex is pretty much crucial in a relationship.

Are you familiar with AVEN (asexuality.org)? It's a discussion forum and there are a lot of people in "mixed" (asexual-sexual) marriages. It's pretty difficult.

[–]PenisChrist 11 points12 points ago

If your gf is like most people, then sex is crucial to the relationship. Especially if she's moved beyond the point in life where "puppy dog" romance is enough to keep her happy.

That isn't a slight against you...you'll just need to find someone else who feels like you about this topic. Otherwise, I definitely foresee problems.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 10 points11 points ago

Just curious ... do you get erections and/or masturbate? If not, could you possibly have low testosterone?

[–]blackberrydoughnuts 0 points1 point ago

Wow. 14 downvotes for my response. A lot of ignorance on this thread. I guess the reasons I downvoted this weren't as obvious as I hoped.

Asexuality is a sexual orientation. It's not the same as a low sex drive and it's not caused by hormones. If you're asexual, you're constantly being "bingoed," told you just haven't met the right person, just have a medical problem, and so forth. This isn't the thread to question or pathologize someone's sexual orientation. If he said he were gay would you ask him if he's been through therapy or seen a doctor to see if he might be straight?

See asexuality.org for more information.

[–]AMerrickanGirl 7 points8 points ago

I know that it can be a sexual orientation, but lack of interest in sex can also be hormonally related and I would at least like the OP to rule this out before he embarks on life as an asexual.

I used to know a guy who had no interest in sex until his late 20s when he was diagnosed with Kleinfelter's Syndrome and was put on testosterone. Surprise! He had a sex drive!

[–]Gregoric399 4 points5 points ago

Although there are other equally important components to a stable and happy relationship - sex is a big deal as is sexual compatability.

You have a couple of options:

  1. You explain to her that sex is perhaps abit alien for you and you try to just go with it - let her see if she can get a sexual reaction out of you. Communication, however, will be key - explain to her that it might not work - explain to her that if nothing happens then its not her fault and you don't think any less of her whatever happens.

  2. You have a somewhat open relationship - this, however, is difficult and might not work for you and things might get a little bit messy.

  3. You break it off or remain close friends until you work out your sexual needs and desires.

I would go with option 1 followed by option 3 if the former doesn't work. Sex is a pleasurable thing and it could be for you as well. Perhaps you just need a little encouragement.

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

Thank you for you advice. If it came to it (which, by the sound of it, it will), I would be prepared to use you first suggestion. I would rather refrain from using 2 or 3 if I can. I have heard some relatively bad stories about open relationships.....

[–]blackberrydoughnuts 3 points4 points ago

It's up to you, but open relationships are far easier than relationships where one person is constantly rejected and feeling deprived. There are a lot more bad stories like that.

It's kinda selfish of you to not let her have sex with anyone else. If you don't care about sex, what's it to you?

[–]xendrillion[S] 0 points1 point ago

I understand that it may seem selfish, but as I have mentioned, I have heard a lot of stories of how open relationships don't tend to work out. If she really wanted an open relationship, I'd be willing to try.

[–]InfinitelyThirsting 4 points5 points ago

I have heard a lot of stories of how open relationships don't tend to work out

Now think about how many stories of monogamous relationship that don't work out you've heard. Most relationships don't work out. Open ones often work just fine. Check out r/polyamory if you want to feel better about it. Mine works out great.

But, speaking as a sexual person to the main topic, if she's not low libido, it matters. It matters A LOT. It's one of the biggest reasons most relationships end. I would never date an asexual, because it's absolutely crucial to my relationships. And a lot of us feel that way about it. And pity sex isn't enough, because it's not just about the act, but the intimacy and shared pleasure.

[–]blackberrydoughnuts 1 point2 points ago

I cannot upvote this enough.

My non-monogamous relationships work out great as well.

[–]Gregoric399 0 points1 point ago

Yeah they often don't work out.

I know I couldn't do one.

[–]Ameerrante 0 points1 point ago

I will admit that the whole 'asexual' thing really boggles my mind, but if you are asexual, does this not mean that you are never sexually aroused? Wouldn't that then mean that you are unable to get an erection? Wouldn't this then mean that you would be physically unable to have intercourse with her? (Just talking about standard stuff here, no kink.)

[–]pikachupikachu 1 point2 points ago

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: yes.

[–]bw2002 2 points3 points ago

Asexuality is debated and at 18 I doubt you really know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoactive_sexual_desire_disorder

It's not fair for her to be without sex, which is a basic human need.

[–]xendrillion[S] 0 points1 point ago

As I have previously mentioned, asexuality and any other kind of sexuality are simply labels. It just so happens that asexual is the label that best describes me at this point of my life.

[–]bw2002 0 points1 point ago

I find it sad that you accept that.

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

It was easier to accept that, rather than deny it. I have learnt to live with it.

[–]l4n 2 points3 points ago

To those that need it, it's essential. Please tell her you're asexual, and are not going to change.

[–]Dark1000 1 point2 points ago

It is for me, and it's probably one for her, especially at 18. You have to tackle this head on because it really is important for a relationship to be on the same page about things. If there's no sexual compatibility, there are going to be problems.

[–]Sleipnoir 1 point2 points ago

My friend is asexual, dating a heterosexual male for a couple of years. It can work out but I think its only because she is sexual with him. She doesn't care about sex but she knows he does and since she is indifferent, she just does it because she knows that most people have needs.

Personally? If I were him I wouldn't find the relationship satisfying. But he seems to be fine with it and she's happy.

[–]Chowderwhore 1 point2 points ago

Wow. I can't even go any further than the period at the end of this sentence.

[–]Cozmo23 0 points1 point ago

Did you watch the episode of House the other night that lays out something similar to your scenario?

[–]LCK_74 0 points1 point ago

Trust me when I say that forcing sex will lead you to not want it even more than you already don't. Through most of my relationship, I've never much been interested in sex but my boyfriend would probably feel like dying if he went a week or two without it. We've been together for 3 years and I recently had a breakdown from how used I felt because I was always doing it for him, instead of doing it for US, and more importantly for me. Basically talk to her and find out what she wants sexually. Maybe you two can have sex when YOU'RE in the mood, and when she wants it when you don't she can either masturbate or sleep with a woman since you said she's bi. Either way, DON'T do what I did. You both will be much happier, regardless of if you stay together or just decide to be friends

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

The best relationships is when the girl likes to have more sex. Mine is totally like that, me loves that

[–]kylelalala 0 points1 point ago

I personally think sex is an extremely important part of any romantic relationship. Sex brings you two closer in way conversation cannot.

I heard a quote once that went something like:

"You can learn more about someone in an hour of play then in a year of conversation."

[–]zerohalo100 -1 points0 points ago

It's nearly impossible for me to think of anyone as being asexual, but I can tell you that a bi-sexual woman is a very sexual creature indeed. To be bisexual means you experiment... and I'm starting to think you might be a challenge to her. Food for thought.

[–]shelovesbleek 0 points1 point ago

My boyfriend and I didn't have sex until our two year anniversary because I wasn't exactly ready due to my conservative background. My boyfriend was unbelievably patient and considerate (obviously) but little did I know he was absolutely crushed waiting for me, not necessarily just because he wasn't getting any, but because he thought he wasn't worth the loss of my virginity. Now that we are sexually active, we have never felt closer, intimately and emotionally.

[–]Pelican_bishop 0 points1 point ago

would you be ok with her having sex with other people while still being emotionally involved with you?

[–]fischestix 0 points1 point ago

It's necessary if the other person wants it.

[–]sonavlaa -1 points0 points ago

I love sex. Id have sex right now if I wasn't at work. Hell i'd do it at work...

[–]aircube -2 points-1 points ago

What do you need her for? Do you really need a bf/gf relationships? You'll have to have sex, and no, it doesn't get less disturbing with more practice/more partenrs(if you're a-). I'm in this game for the kids, what's your motivation?

[–]Sleipnoir 0 points1 point ago

Just because someone is asexual does not mean they don't need some level of romantic intimacy, just like everyone else. It just means that they don't have sexual desires.

[–]aircube 1 point2 points ago

I don't need romantic intimacy, so no, not everyone. And the original post is not convincing in that regard, that's why I'm asking for more details

[–]xendrillion[S] -1 points0 points ago

I apologize if I was unclear in the original post, but yes, I am in this relationship because I would rather not be alone for the rest of my life, not for the sex.

[–]epithelia 2 points3 points ago

I don't mean to offend, but that is a really poor reason to be in a relationship. It sounds like you don't care about your partner much. You should be with someone because you care for them, adore them, want to spend your life with them... not just because you fear being alone.

[–]xendrillion[S] 0 points1 point ago

I do care for her, and have feelings for her. We have been friends for the last few years, and have decided to take another step in our relationship. I am sorry, but I may have slightly lost my temper at the comment of not needing her, and my post may have reflected that. I tend to be a bit too blunt when I feel like I have been blatantly insulted...

[–]aircube 0 points1 point ago

He should be with her if they match. It doesn't have to be fair.

[–]aircube 0 points1 point ago

Never ment to make you apologize, sorry. Just to let you know asexuality is much more frequent in women, so you won't have trouble finding an adequate partner if you current relationship doesn't work out.

[–]xendrillion[S] 0 points1 point ago

I am bi-romantic, so a female partner isn't my only option.

[–]ftchaos 0 points1 point ago

If she thinks that it's that important for a romantic relationship, you won't be able to put it off for too long before she starts to get restless. You should have a talk about what you honestly expect out of a relationship physically soon, because it will only get more difficult with time. Non-compatible sexualities can ruin relationships if you don't attempt to reconcile.

And as a side note: sex is excellent. May I ask why you label yourself as asexual? Have you just never experienced any sort of attraction physically to a member of either sex?

[–]xendrillion[S] -1 points0 points ago

I fit does come up in conversation, I will attempt to address it. Thanks for the advice.

As to your 'side note': I have never felt any attraction to another person other than a romantic attraction. I'm not sure if it's just because I haven't found the right person yet, or if it is just a lack of experience. But, as you said, it is a label. It just so happens that this is the most suitable label for me at this point in time.

[–]ftchaos 4 points5 points ago

I'd personally recommend experimenting a little, just to determine if you're truly asexual or just sexually naive (no offense meant). I had a girlfriend long ago who was so inexperienced that she wasn't even interested, but she did a complete 180 after a little encouragement.

[–]xendrillion[S] 1 point2 points ago

No offence taken (Friends have recommended the same). Thanks for your advice and experiences.

[–]JalapenoCheese 0 points1 point ago

I realize there are asexual people out there, but you might also want to see a doctor and get your hormones and other health stuff checked out. Medical causes for low libido are more common than asexuality.

[–]ThatGuyMiles 0 points1 point ago

Your 18 years old just because you have never been sexually attracted to someone in this short time frame doesn't mean you're asexual.

I'm not sure if it's because your young and you feel pressured into thinking you should be labeled. I assure you don't have to, and you certainly don't find out or know you're "asexual" at 18.

[–]xendrillion[S] 0 points1 point ago

As I have previously mentioned, asexuality is simply the label best fitting to me at this point in my life. I am not saying "I am asexual, this won't change", I am saying that this could simply be temporary, and it could just as easily not be.

[–]ponchoandy -3 points-2 points ago

In my opinion a relationship can not work without sex. It really becomes a part of the whole that will keep the relationship healthy. On a side note though, why the fuck are you dating anyone if you are "asexual"; which you aren't?

[–]Sleipnoir 2 points3 points ago

Asexual people usually still want the emotional intimacy of a relationship, they just don't care about sex.

[–]ThatGuyMiles -1 points0 points ago

He's not even asexual he's already said he's considered having sex with her. He's not lacking all sexual attraction to others. At best he's abstinent.

When in all actuality they are both 18 and are just confused... They are just now trying to figure out what they want in life let alone "knowing" absolutely what they want sexually out of a relationship.

[–]Sleipnoir 0 points1 point ago

You're wrong. Asexual people can have sex. They just don't get anything out of it. My friend has no sexual desires but she still has sex because she knows that her partner does.

Asexuality doesn't mean not having sex ever. It means not having the desire to have sex. Not all asexuals are repulsed by sex, some just get absolutely nothing out of it and don't experience any kind of sexual desird.