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[–]Release_the_KRAKEN 121 points122 points ago

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GET THE FUCK OUT!!!

[–]KnightAlbedo 6 points7 points ago

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just dont release the Kraken before you do, or else you will feel terrible in the morning :)

[–]Bloodyfinger 4 points5 points ago

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Then RELEASE THE KRAKEN!

[–]Release_the_KRAKEN 3 points4 points ago

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o0. No, just get the fuck out.

[–]itsashotinthedark 2 points3 points ago

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Dude, we rented you. You're fucking expensive. I'm not going to take no for an answer.

[–]Release_the_KRAKEN 2 points3 points ago

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Fine fine FINE! A DEAL IS A DEAL!!!

[–]wryn 1 point2 points ago

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I skipped down to write this after "strike two."

[–]Burlapin 0 points1 point ago

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All of these upvotes are people agreeing with this sentiment. Please take it to heart; good luck in your future romances.

[–]YankGoneCanuck 23 points24 points ago

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You are goddess of insight and strength. Rarely have I heard someone discuss their relationship in such a clear-thinking and level-headed manner. But you have drawn the line, and you have not let him get away (to yourself) with moving passed it.

Strikes one and three could, alone, be gotten past. Two is outta my league, but closer to a real deal breaker. But you are right - all three together make for a break-up. You are so young! You did very well with this guy, armed with the self-esteem of knowing you can do very well but turn it away when it is not good enough will bring someone without strikes into your life. Don't let the fact that this is the best you have done so far be the golden handcuffs, stay true to yourself.

Bravo.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 7 points8 points ago

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Thank you. I know this post probably makes me look like any other dumb girl getting walked on, but there is more to it than I can write out. I have had my share of shit relationships, this was one of the best regardless of the bad. I know what I have to do, just wanted to see what others had to say about it. Plus, I'm scared shitless to live alone. Talking it out to Reddit helps sadly.

[–]teriaki 9 points10 points ago

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It is scary. I agree - but you CAN do it. I stayed in an abusive relationship longer than I should have because it was scary to be alone. I found out it is WONDERFUL. I keep my own hours, I can eat/watch/wear/listen to whatever I feel like. ANYTIME I WANT. And I can go out and do whatever I want to do. It is LIBERATING - not sad. Trust me on this!

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 12 points13 points ago

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The freedom to be able to watch all my shitty reality TV without getting bitched at would be nice. Sleeping on a bed sprawled out not giving a fuck would be nice. Hmm.. maybe this won't be so bad? Haha.

[–]teriaki 5 points6 points ago

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Have faith, it's not so bad. It takes a little getting used to, but putting on music when it is quiet, or even just going back out to get some more human contact....it's actually quite nice.

[–]NatelieOne 4 points5 points ago

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Agreed, I love being single. Life is easier because you pretty much only have to worry about yourself.

[–]Cowboy_Up 1 point2 points ago

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Nah - you don't seem like you're getting walked on. You were just trying your best to make it work and clearly he wasn't. It seems like you've put a lot of thought into this and are making a ration decision.

Best of luck to you!

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points ago

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Ex-gf basically sucked his dong for a minute

Would count as all three strikes and then some, in my opinion.

What should I do?

The easiest thing you can do.... Better than him.

[–]BostonTentacleParty 1 point2 points ago

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Really? Honestly? It was a long-distance relationship, and he stopped her mid-blowjob. That's a strike, but it's not all three.

Hitting her, though. That was all three.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] -1 points0 points ago

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I agree.. he has put in a lot of effort in this relationship though. He's got his shit together and got a good job. None of that would have happened unless I was there to believe in him. Aside from these incidents, he has been very good to me. Cooks almost every night, takes care of me when I'm sick. Checks up on me.

It's so hard to say goodbye when the best person you know is also the only person you're close to. I knew that moving out here.. but fuck it's hard. I don't want to live alone with no friends and family.

[–]heyrey 14 points15 points ago

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Uh, we don't break up with people over the positive things they do, but the irreconcilable fucked up shit that we don't need or want to have in our lives.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points ago

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Cooks almost every night, takes care of me when I'm sick. Checks up on me.

Yeah, a steak and an aspirin make up for cheating on you and slapping you...

I know first-hand that it's hard on your own, it's terrifying.

But I think that if you get away, you'll find friends - you seem to be pretty accepting (even though you shouldn't be in this situation) so you're no doubt likeable and will thrive if you find the confidence to escape.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 9 points10 points ago

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But what do I do?? Do I go home tonight and say "Welp, we're over. Pack your shit." ???

[–]borohydride 30 points31 points ago

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Yes.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 7 points8 points ago

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But do I really have the right to do that after reading Facebook messages? I'm really not your average drama queen girl.. I feel like that doesn't justify it..

[–]The_Reckoning 39 points40 points ago

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Oh my god, he cheated on you and HIT you. You read facebook messages. You think he has the moral upper hand here?

Get the hell away from this asshole.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 11 points12 points ago

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You're right.

[–]fas2 -3 points-2 points ago*

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Even all things considered, I am still against the invasion of privacy. If she did not trust him enough to read his messages, she could have broken up with him without doing so.

[–]BostonTentacleParty 1 point2 points ago

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Sure, valid point. That doesn't change that she should break up with him, though.

[–]lounsey 0 points1 point ago

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When you are dealing with a dishonest partner sometimes less than honest means are required to get confirmation of that fact.

[–]fas2 0 points1 point ago

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I disagree. The facts are irrelevant in light of already existing mistrust.

[–]ntou45 14 points15 points ago

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you have the right to do it after he cheated on you and hit you. you are not being a drama queen you are being used.

[–]junegloom 11 points12 points ago

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You read those messages with probable cause, he's staying up at night to talk to this girl, its pretty obvious he's emotionally invested and you need to know the truth about what he's up to.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 2 points3 points ago

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Ugh, just thinking about what I read today makes me sick. It's like he is another person. I just can't fucking believe it.

[–]junegloom 7 points8 points ago

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I found that reading an ex's IMs with a friend talking about another girl he was thinking about leaving me for (while telling me otherwise) was pretty helpful in the getting-over-it process. Whenever I'd feel devastated thinking about breaking up, just thinking back on the horrible things he said to someone else sorted me right out. Thanks to what you read you know who he really is. You don't have to mourn over a wonderful boyfriend that he isn't really.

[–]bombaybicycleclub 0 points1 point ago

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I don't know how you can't believe it? A guy who starts a relationship with even a little cheating should be kicked the fuck out of the relationship.

[–]BostonTentacleParty 1 point2 points ago

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Something like 85% of the world cheats at some point. Humans aren't naturally monogamous; it's a cultural concept and some are better enculturated in it than others.

It was a long-distance relationship and he stopped mid-blowjob. She should leave him, but that's not the primary reason.

[–]NatelieOne 2 points3 points ago

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Now it just sees like you are trying to justify his actions... :\

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I honestly wish I had some insta-win advice for you on the logistics of it :(

[–]CRLewis 4 points5 points ago

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See "Sunk Cost Fallacy" ... In other words, you don't throw good money after bad.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sunk_costs

[–]mhink 1 point2 points ago

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Christ this is the best answer in this whole thread.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Aside from these incidents, he has been very good to me. Cooks almost every night, takes care of me when I'm sick. Checks up on me.

A good guy will likely never treat you like shit, but an asshole will occasionally be nice.

[–]itsashotinthedark 0 points1 point ago

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he has put in a lot of effort in this relationship though

Why do you blind yourself?

[–]BostonTentacleParty 0 points1 point ago

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Why is it that you have no friends and family? Where are your friends?

[–]masturbating_fetuses 18 points19 points ago

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He hit you. Leave.

[–]advocatadiaboli 14 points15 points ago

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He ended up shoving me around and hit me in public.

my bf is pretty amazing.

I'm sorry, what?

[–]heartbroken857839[S] -1 points0 points ago

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I wish I could type up all the things I love about him and why he is a good person... this thread is about the other side of things though. I know it looks dumb. Trust me I fucking hate how my life is being played out right now. Trying to accept it.

[–]cheese_wizard 6 points7 points ago

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People are more complicated than good or bad, so don't think contradictory feelings are not valid. But... there is a pattern here of somebody not able to keep their shit together for you. you deserve better.

[–]HashRunner 10 points11 points ago

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Are you serious?

Either of the first 2 strikes should have been enough...

Leave the sob already...

Seriously, quit being fucktarded and leave.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 2 points3 points ago

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This is exactly what I would have said to someone if it wasn't me. We've been through a lot. I have never had these things happen to me before so it was hard to understand. I am trying to accept it now. Sorry for being a fucktard. We all do it at some point in our lives.

[–]HashRunner 7 points8 points ago

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Hell, the only reason I use that word is cause I've been there.

Cheated, strung along, all the while believing things would change and it would all get better.

It was only when someone told me point blank that I started seeing the situation for what it really was...

Sorry for your current state of affairs, but leaving now and moving forward is surely your best bet. Good luck.

[–]nymphaea 0 points1 point ago

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It seems confusing and like a difficult decision now, but once time passes you are going to see that you made the right decision. This won't be the hardest thing in your life. There are so many wonderful guys out there that will make your current guy look like a chump.

[–]pikeybastard 8 points9 points ago

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People fuck up, and I'm sure that he regretted and was genuinely sorry for cheating on you with his ex. That is something that only you guys can be sure of, and how fixable it is. Again, regarding this other girl, you know him better than anybody on Reddit, and what his intentions may be. The only comment that I would happily make on this is that under no circumstances, even when drunk, is it ever acceptable for a guy to physically intimidate or strike a woman. I have been hurt, cheated on and told despicable things by girls that I have loved and, no matter how hurt/angry/humiliated you get, that's the rule. If a guy does that, he is an immature coward. I'm sure you deserve better, and I'm sorry that you're going through such a hard time. As someone who's recently had their heart somewhat broken, I can understand to a degree how you're feeling. Things will get better though.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 3 points4 points ago

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Thank you. I have never been hit in the face before so it was hard. I'm an aggressive person for fun (ex-roller derby skater, lots of tattoos) so because it wasn't a HARD hit.. I just excused it. The action alone should have been it. Again though, I had no where to go.. we worked through it. Etc.

[–]pikeybastard 3 points4 points ago

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When we're scared and are in a situation without a great support network around us we tend to hang on to things that otherwise we could rationalize away or could deal with better if better secured. I'm sorry that you're in such a shitty situation, and whatever happens, I hope you find yourself happier and better placed very very soon.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah. I'm pretty much terrified.

[–]lounsey 0 points1 point ago

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It isn't really about the hit, though. It's about the display of disrespect that trying to get power over your partner by hitting them is.

[–]dandioyy 8 points9 points ago

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Infidelity is bad enough...

But then he hit you? any real man would never do that.

Please get out quickly and don't give him a second chance.

Relationships are built on love and respect. He obviously hasn't got a handle on either of these traits.

[–]lounsey 0 points1 point ago

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real man

it's not about whether or not he's a 'real man'... it's about whether or not he's a respectful partner. He isn't. I'd say the same about a woman who hit her bf.

[–]WolfManZack 5 points6 points ago

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I just forgot what post I was in and typed in a long response to a dude who confessed he got a blowjob from a homeless woman.

You would have been so confused.

[–]heyrey 19 points20 points ago

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  1. Ex sucked his dick

  2. Physically abused you (and humiliated you in public)

  3. Currently emotionally cheating on you

Looks like he isn't as invested in you as you are in him, and it looks like you are a doormat who lets him wipe his feet on you (even if only occasionally).

Any one of these things would cause most people to run away. Yet you are actually considering tolerating all three.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 6 points7 points ago

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My conclusion: He misses his old life of not having a serious job, not paying rent, and just messing around. I can understand. He's 22. I'm at a different level though. I have been on my own for years. I have a serious career that I work my ass off for. Dating is not on my agenda right now.

[–]arquebus_x 15 points16 points ago

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Dating is not on my agenda right now.

And the relationship is not on his.

[–]shipshipship 15 points16 points ago*

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He misses his old life [...] I can understand.

Stop being so understanding. There is one universal reason why people act like he does: He is an asshole, and he does not appreciate you. Period. Assholes thrive on their partner's understanding. If you want to give him yet another shot, go ahead and good luck. But be realistic.

EDIT: By go ahead I do not in any way suggest that you do. Just to be clear.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 9 points10 points ago

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You're right. It's a well known fact I am too nice for my own good sometimes. Trying to change that. Thank you.

[–]poesie -1 points0 points ago

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That's not being nice; that's being weak and desperate.

[–]The_Lobbyist 5 points6 points ago

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He misses his old life of not having a serious job, not paying rent, and just messing around.

He's not ready to be with you, then.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I'm just guessing this.. going to have this talk with him tonight and see if he agrees. Wouldn't be surprised if I am right.

[–]heyrey -1 points0 points ago*

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Look, deep down inside, are you really okay with him fucking around with other women? Because it looks like you can somewhat tolerate it because he treats you well otherwise. Maybe you should both have an open relationship, since you seem to be too afraid to be alone and he doesn't want to be committed to you.

edit for those of you downvoting who cannot understand why I posted this, it's to show OP how ridiculous she is being.

[–]AngledLuffa 8 points9 points ago

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Are you fucking retarded or something?

Sincerely,

A guy who doesn't cheat, hit my girlfriend, or cheat again.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 2 points3 points ago

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Trust me, I never thought I would be "that girl" too.

[–]throwaway-o 3 points4 points ago

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DTMFA

[–]VYH 1 point2 points ago

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Second

[–]junegloom 3 points4 points ago

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The concept of second chances is that they're never supposed to make the mistake they made again. I can sorta see forgiving and moving on after 1 and 2, under the assumption that they'll never happen again. (Although 2 sounds pretty unacceptable even once, but if you'd convinced yourself at the time that it wasn't serious) But 3 is a clear sign that he didn't get the memo after mistake #1. Its definitely time to be gone. He had his second shot and look what he's doing with it. Clearly he thinks that because you took him back he can get away with screwing around on you. That wasn't the right message to take from it so he's being an idiot, so dump him.

He'll probably tell you a lot of BS like he hasn't slept with her yet so you just need to trust him and you're being unreasonable and blah blah. If you hear any of that, you know that you're doing the right thing. It doesn't have to be illegal for you to not like it. He's disrespecting you, you want a boyfriend who isn't busy flirting and emotionally absorbed in other girls. Is that too much to ask?

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I'm going to re-read that second paragraph over and over before I leave for home. This is exactly what is going to happen and I need to stand my ground.

[–]arquebus_x 2 points3 points ago

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Leave.

[–]godlesspinko 2 points3 points ago

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Reasoning is sound. Pull the trigger, this guy's a douchebag.

[–]ledoctor 2 points3 points ago

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Dump that motherfucker's ass. You deserve better.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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You aren't going to be lonely. You'll learn a bit about yourself and have time to reflect on why you would choose to let someone treat you like that.

Then you will pick yourself up, dust yourself off and be the badass woman you know you are.

[–]animaladvocate 2 points3 points ago

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Dump this loser and get someone who actually loves you and respects you.

[–]theawesomeishere 2 points3 points ago

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Can't blame her, my bf is pretty amazing.

The faster you realize how crazily wrong that is, the better. Good luck to you.

[–]Jessie_James 5 points6 points ago

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The mark of an adult, and I believe you are an adult, is to be faced with a difficult decision which you know you must make, and knowing it will be difficult and cause hardship, not wanting to do it ... but you do it anyway.

Three strikes? Sure, I understand that. Strike one, he never puts his dishes away. Strike two, never takes out the trash. Strike three, he plays video games all day.

Oral sex with another woman? BYE!

HIT YOU? Bye!

E-flirting? Bye!

You have given this guy 30 strikes!

You will now be able to define yourself as a strong and independent adult woman. Move out and leave him to pay the rent. If I were you, I would be sure you speak to the apartment manager and be blunt - my boyfriend cheated on me and I am moving out. I would like to remove my name from the lease as he is staying. In the event you both move out, most apartment managers will let you break the lease if you pay 1-2 months rent. However, in many states, they cannot charge you rent if the subsequently fill it during those same 1-2 months (they have to refund you a pro-rated amount).

Or, better yet, advertise the place on your own and get someone to take over the lease.

Obviously, if it's a month-to-month lease you're good.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I would gladly leave him behind with the apartment but its ALL under my name. I can pay the full rent by myself.. we are actually just about to pay together for the first time. Tempted to just ask for the money first and then kick him, haha.

[–]Jessie_James 2 points3 points ago

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Don't collect rent, otherwise it WILL give him the legal right to stay there (I'm a landlord).

If he has not moved in, don't let him! That is easiest!

If it has been there for less than 14 days, most states will let you kick him out without any recourse, otherwise once he pays rent he is protected by law. He may not be smart enough to know this, though, just don't get screwed over.

Anyway, once he is gone, do you have a 2 bedroom so you can rent out the other room? That's an easy enough way to get some extra income.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 3 points4 points ago

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Nope, one bedroom. Considering getting a doggie or something to keep me company. I've never lived alone before, nor have I been alone in a city I'm not familiar with. :(

[–]Jessie_James 5 points6 points ago

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It is a great adventure, just get out and about. I loved it when I moved to new places.

I would suggest no dog, though. That gives you a LOT of freedom to go out and meet new people. Having a dog will require you to come home frequently and makes it hard to go be social. Your freedom is precious, believe me. There is always time for a dog, a house, a car payment and all that when you get older. ;)

Besides, who wants a dog watching when you ... uh ... have a guest over? LOL

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 6 points7 points ago

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Hahaha thank you for shedding some light on this. I'm just a huge dog lover and always wanted one. We live on a third floor apartment though, so it's not practical right now. I signed a 15 month lease.. ugh. Paying those termination fees will suck. It will be worth it if I find something I really like though. Not in love with this place. A lot of it reminds me of back home which I don't want either. I want a new start.

[–]lounsey 0 points1 point ago

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If you are looking for a pet as something to keep you company I whole heartedly recommend that you get some baby rats. They are really intelligent, adorable, easy to look after. I had some that I had to give away because I was allergic, but they were the best. Another friend of mine had a pet rat that would sit on her shoulder and clean off her tears and make-up when she was sad.

[–]teriaki 0 points1 point ago

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Totally agree with this one. Dogs are great for company when you're lonely, but they are years and years of responsibility. I love dogs, I would have 10 dogs if I could, but I'm in a transition state, and I can't see dragging a pet through that....

[–]Zombie_Plan 1 point2 points ago

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Break up with him.

[–]soldierofwellthearmy 1 point2 points ago

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It sounds like he's not as invested in it as you. It also sounds like he's still with you to be nice.. on the other hand, the three-strikes concept is bullshit - and it sounds like you may be overreacting.

In the end though, none of it matters, if you can't be happy or feel safe with him, move on. If you can't be happy without him - don't.

[–]AndrewP7 1 point2 points ago

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You should've been gone at the first strike hun... There is no excuse for infidelity.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 0 points1 point ago

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You're right. I just felt so invested.. things paid for, etc. It's a stupid excuse I know. The good thing is that he has not spoken a word to her since it happened.

[–]FlyingUndeadSheep 1 point2 points ago

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Ex-gf basically sucked his dong for a minute until he stopped and realized what a shitty person he was being. He actually felt so bad he threw up and left.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Naw, true story. They were out celebrating a certification he just passed and had a few. He missed being sexual with me.. it had been almost two months. He was weak and let her do it. Didn't last long. Bitch is ugly as hell anyway. I told him he could never talk to her again. I messaged her and told her how I felt. They still have not talked and I know this 100%.

[–]FlyingUndeadSheep 2 points3 points ago

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Sorry matey, but I don't buy the whole "I felt guilty halfway through the blowjob and stopped" part.

[–]teriaki 1 point2 points ago

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He hit you and you STAYED with him? WTF?? GOGO now!

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I always pictured physical violence was unacceptable when it was Chris Brown level.. but I need to realize it doesn't matter how much damage occurred. Complete disrespect is enough.

[–]shouldwritestuffdown 0 points1 point ago

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Would you agree that you took your ticket out before just by setting the three strikes rule?

[–]riverkitten 0 points1 point ago

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Okay so I see what you said below about him getting his shit together. Of course you make him a better person, that is great for him. But what about you? So far it seems like you've been working hard on yourself and all he's forced you to do is compromise your self-respect and pride not to mention your moral values of monogamy and mutual respect in a relationship. He has some growing up to do, and if you really think he's irreplaceable in other aspects and will do the maturing he needs to do soon, you should give him a chance. But it seems like a crapshoot at this point and there may be better guys out there who are ready to be in an adult relationship.

[–]carusargus 0 points1 point ago

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you should have left after the first strike, thats a pretty big strike; moreover giving yourself a quotient is so arbitrary why 3?

[–]badaboom 0 points1 point ago

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I'm getting in on this advice session a little late. I just wanted to say that I was in a situation that was kind of like this too. I put up with way more than I should have, but still really debated leaving (I did leave three weeks ago). Fear is a totally common reason people stay in relationships, so don't be embarrassed that you were afraid too. Getting through this is what is going to make you (and me) an awesome, strong, confident woman. Please update, and PM me if you need someone to chat with :)

[–]rareknockout 0 points1 point ago

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" breaking point" by keri hilson.

I always thinks the glass is half full, I normally keep the thought of how good people are in my head. Now being 27 and wishing I could go back in time and tell a few people to fuck off. It sucks beinging alone. I did not get it until this past year but IF you truely loved yourself and respected your own thoughts and feelings you would not allow this to happen in your life. You are still young so your learning the red flags. It took me a while. Sounds like the trust is gone. YOU cannot make it come back alone. Does not sound like he is to interested in helping. I am sorry you are having to go threw this. :(

[–]mrsavage 0 points1 point ago

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Just on a quick note, hasn't anybody ever learned to hide Their dirty messages on the computer?? I pride myself On my internet history clearing abilities \s. Srsly is it It that hard to do???

[–]Ohioho 0 points1 point ago

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you should leave him

[–]mohlee 0 points1 point ago

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This is a bad situation. Please get out! I would've left after he hit me but everyone makes mistakes. Please don't give him another chance. :\

[–]henriski 0 points1 point ago

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Doesn't sound like his amazingness outweighs all the shitty things he does to you. Sometimes the smartest decisions are the hardest. Goodluck.

[–]deskclerk -1 points0 points ago*

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I'm so sorry you are in such a cognitively dissonant place psychologically. To me, it sounds like he is just taking you for granted. He probably really cares about you on one level, but on another level he feels that he has a good enough hold on you that if he screws up he can fix things. The difference in my opinion is him consciously being aware that he should be actively trying to not mess up your relationship again. THAT'S a true sign for someone who is genuinely sorry for relationship mistakes.

To me, it just sounds like he screws up, then does whatever it takes to remedy the situation. You need to tell him that what he's been doing hurts you, and that even though he hasn't screwed up again yet, the fact that hes putting himself in relationship-dangerous situations is not a sign that he is truly sorry for the way he treated you in the past. Gauge his reaction to this talk - I think it will help you really decide whether or not he is worth staying with.

Give him one last chance. He has the potential to be sorry and change, does he not? In this case, its either or, and if he doesn't make sure he knows that you will leave him and make sure you follow through on your word.

Best case scenario - he changes his ways, learns something profoundly meaningful, and becomes eternally grateful to you and appreciative of you for helping him realize his true mistakes. Stronger bond and stronger relationship. Worst case - he doesn't learn a god damn thing and the relationship ends. In your case, I'd expect the latter, just to be safe since you've already been through a couple doozeys.

Good luck to you!

[–]teriaki 3 points4 points ago

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are you KIDDING ME? Give him another chance??? He HIT her. In PUBLIC. AND cheated on her. This is a cycle of abuse, and it won't get better.....this is the shittiest advice I've ever seen.

[–]deskclerk -2 points-1 points ago*

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My parents hit me when I was young. Doesn't mean they dont love me. People do stupid things for stupid reasons. Just because someone does a bad thing once, even a couple times, doesn't necessarily make them a bad person. How can you make such a fundamentally risky assessment of a person based on such little information? Soldiers in a war MURDER people daily. But surely you don't think american soldiers are bad people, do you? No, because you understand that everything is contextual. Do you know what she did to provoke him in that way? Also, they were drunk. When people are drunk, inhibitions are severely lowered. It seems you haven't been drunk before, perhaps? Have you forgotten that these two have been sharing a pretty powerful relationship long enough and strong enough to make a seemingly well put together female adult want to move in with him? Did you think to perhaps account for all the good things hes done, rather than ignore all of that and only bias your opinion towards such a small amount of information?

If you think this is a big deal, it's only because you are making biased judgments based on experience in your own life. Try to be more objective and understand of other people's situations and how those situations affect people. I agree that those kinds of abuse are bad things, but there is more to people than just things they have done in their lives. We are defined not solely by our actions but the circumstances in which those actions were performed, their intentions, and the history of the person's experience that has influenced them to act that way.

[–]teriaki 2 points3 points ago

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Clearly, you think it's ok to hit women. Perhaps you've even struck one or two in your life. I think it's never ok to strike your SO - male or female - as adults resolve their issues (drunk or sober) without resorting to fists. Physical confrontation is never acceptable behavior. Not once, not more chances, not ever.

[–]teriaki 0 points1 point ago

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My parents also spanked me when I was young. Never more than that, or anywhere besides on the bottom. I'm sorry if you were abused and believe it's ok to pass it on "in certain circumstances". You scare me a little.

[–]NatelieOne 1 point2 points ago

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Studies have shown that using physical punishment causes aggression later on in life. Sorry to tell you, but your parents chose the easy and bad choice in punishment. Positive reinforcement is more effective.

[–]teriaki 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think I turned out any worse for the wear, honestly. I don't think it's ok to hit people unlike the poster I was responding to initially.

[–]NatelieOne 1 point2 points ago

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Ah okay, maybe I mis read you wrong. I just get irritated when I see people promoting hitting their kids. I think "Hey, uhm, your kid is acting out BECAUSE you are hitting them, not the other way around."

[–]deskclerk 1 point2 points ago

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facepalm i cannot believe how stupid and tunnel visioned people on reddit are...

[–]NatelieOne 1 point2 points ago

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If it helps my case, my comments were being posted shortly after I woke up. I don't even remember posting these o_o... I need to stay away from my laptop in the morning...

[–]theubernoob -1 points0 points ago

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This is good advice.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] -4 points-3 points ago

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This made me feel much better, thank you. Is he on thin ice with me? Abso-fuckin-lutely. Unless I feel that we can fix this, I'm DONE. We will see what he says tonight. I'm ready for the worst. I'm ready to be alone. Thank you for reminding me that I need to approach it like an adult.

[–]deskclerk -1 points0 points ago

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You're very welcome! I'm so glad that my advice could help you out. I also would like to compliment you on your objective and reasonable description of the situation you're in - most people can't do this.

If you don't mind, I would like to know how it works out for you.

Again, best of luck to you!

[–]eipiplusone -1 points0 points ago

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He should have been gone after #1. After #2 that is beyond acceptable - ever.

Let him be someone else's boat anchor you can do so much better.

[–]heartbroken857839[S] 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah. This girl is nothing special. If he wants that over me, have at it. I'm fucking awesome.

[–]mintybunnies 0 points1 point ago

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That's the spirit!