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[–]Rambis 38 points39 points ago

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Sounds like my brother in law.

This sounds like something that you're just going to have to straight out tell him about and talk about. If it makes him feel ashamed, so be it. That may be the kick in the butt he needs to change his habits. That being said, if you say it nicely enough ("Honey, I really need help cleaning up around the house and I feel like I'm cleaning up after a child sometimes. I love you, I just need a bit more of your help around the house." or something similar), he shouldn't take it offensively.

My husband mentioned that your husband sounds like he might be getting depressed. Ask him about that as well, see if there's anything bugging him (job, tiredness, depression in general etc). Maybe that's the underlying issue here. Either that or he just doesn't realize he's being a slob and needs to be told it.

[–]pingwax 5 points6 points ago

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If nothing else, this is a good context for the conversation. Now it's not complaining, it's caring.

"I want to talk with you, things have changed in this list of ways, I wonder if everything is ok with you? Are you feeling alright? How can I help get us back to this list of way things were 6 months ago?"

[–]AMerrickanGirl 15 points16 points ago

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She may need to be a bit more direct.

And if he's not depressed, they need to set up a list of chores and each one be responsible for some of the cleaning. It's not her job to do it all unless she's staying home full time with kids or whatever.

[–]Rambis 1 point2 points ago

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This sounds like something that you're just going to have to straight out tell him about and talk about. If it makes him feel ashamed, so be it. That may be the kick in the butt he needs to change his habits.

A list of chores is a really good idea. At the very least it's a great start to cleaner habits for him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Is he a thinker? head in the clouds type day-dreamer ?

Perhaps go further than the list AmericanGirl suggests, and print off and pin up a spreadsheet with rows for general chores, and columns for days. Chores: clean bathroom, clean counter tops, plates in dishwasher, vacuum-clean, morning teeth routine, ditto evening etc.

[–]catlebrity 6 points7 points ago

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I'm about as messy as you can get, but ... POOP ON THE BATHTUB?????

Combine this with not bathing or brushing his teeth and he does indeed sound like he could be depressed, or have some other psychological issues.

I don't think talking to him is going to be enough; he needs to talk to a therapist.

[–]Rambis 0 points1 point ago

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Talking to him first would be a good starting step to get him into therapy. He may not want to go initially or he may get defensive if she immediately assumes it's depression.

[–]Keith 30 points31 points ago

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Why would you be afraid of making him ashamed? He should be ashamed at his behavior. Ditto on people's comments about depression, and how the fuck does someone get poop on the bathtub.

[–]fearofthestink[S] 6 points7 points ago

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I agree that he should be ashamed of his behavior. The reason I want to avoid making him feel that way is because, in my experience, if someone is ashamed, they just shut down, and then where will I be?

[–]Keith 5 points6 points ago

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My attitude is always to be 100% honest, but also 100% supportive. Tell him his behavior is unacceptable but ask him what he's going through, and let him know you're there for him to help him through whatever it is.

[–]aenea 5 points6 points ago

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Don't make him ashamed- get him to a doctor for a full physical (and hopefully a doctor that he will talk to). There's a difference between being a slob and disregarding your partner's requests, and over a short period of time (six months) progressing to leaving shit on the bathtub and not brushing his teeth. Either he's depressed (which isn't uncommon at his age, and often has those type of symptoms), or there's something going on physically with him. This doesn't sound like a relationship problem.

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[–]idratherusethephone 1 point2 points ago

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hat tip

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I think that he has a dirty ass and then sits on the edge when you think he's showering and wanks it.

[–]photosensitiv 6 points7 points ago

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this is pretty serious. you should definitely have more serious, and much longer conversation.

this isn't poop on the toilet, or poop next to the toilet where it makes sense. this is poop, out in the open, in your house.

fecal bacteria is dangerous. there's a reason we spend so much energy trying to separate ourselves from our waste.

even within the bathroom, poop out in the open is ... wrong. like. pretty wrong. either he did this while he was showering, or he got up off the toilet and decided to poop on some different white stuff for fun.

this is indicative of some behavioural problems. you need to know what his motives are for leaving poop in your home

[–]wabbitbun 0 points1 point ago

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Poop next to the toilet makes just as much sense as bathtub poop. :(

[–]generalT 12 points13 points ago

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did something change six months ago to induce this neglect of hygiene?

[–]ErikF 20 points21 points ago

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I'm going to have to agree with Rambis' husband. It really sounds like your husband has become seriously depressed. It is one thing to be a slob, but what you are describing is above and beyond. There seems to be a self loathing or something else going on. Do sit down with him and tell him your concern. You don't even need to mention the hygiene issue, just that you feel he maybe unhappy or seriously distracted. Once you guys figure out the underlying problem the slob issue will probably resolve itself. Or at least go back to acceptable levels.

[–]brettrosey 1 point2 points ago

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There is a difference between depression and having a mental handicap. Sure he has become lethargic, but when you're shitting in the shower and just leaving it there, you have to be a little retarded.

[–]ErikF 6 points7 points ago

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I think maybe its from sitting on the edge of the tub with a really dirty bum. Like a Hersey's kiss...only gross.

[–]brettrosey 2 points3 points ago

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Fuck me. I don't know what's worse.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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maybe he sits there and wanks it

[–]anecdotal-evidence 0 points1 point ago

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So you poop when you wank it? Really?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I thought it was on the edge of the tub. It could be a weird way someone wanks it in the shower. .. .

[–]mysteriousf 16 points17 points ago

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What exactly are "plops of poop" and how do they make their ways to the side of the bathtub? I'm fascinated.

[–]fearofthestink[S] 12 points13 points ago

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Picture a quarter-sized dollup. Honestly, I have no fucking idea how they made their way to the side of the bathtub. I am just as fascinated as you, except I'm also terrified to find out the truth. It has been mentioned that this could be some sort of mental problem, so I guess I am going to have to actually ask.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

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this is way out there but....

on several occasion i have heard of this mental issue. i worked at a restaurant where every now and then there would be poop smeared on the walls. and i don't mean a dollop. i mean someone put poop in there hand and smeared it all over the place. this can be linked to a variety of disorders. and i imagine behavior like this starts small.

this person was a server (!) and they acted totally normal and cheerful on the outside. turned out they were eating away at themselves with depression and severe self hatred, becoming manifest in straight up animal behavior.

your husband may be in the early stages of a mental disorder.

i am a slob myself but your husband is behaving like a child. you shouldn't have to put up with, and there may be something else going on.

sorry if i freaked you out.

[–]mysteriousf 1 point2 points ago

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Interesting, thank you for your response. When you say that it seems like it was deliberate, what do you base that on? Are the dollups formed a certain way, or in a specific spot, or anything like that?

[–]mike_sol 1 point2 points ago

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You are asking for entirely too much detail here!

[–]mysteriousf 0 points1 point ago

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Look man, there's a difference between accidental poop on a bathroom surface and deliberate poop on a bathroom surface. I just wanted to know how she came to the conclusion that it was deliberate.

[–]mike_sol 0 points1 point ago

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I don't understand how there could be an accidental poop on a surface like the edge of a bathtub that you wouldn't notice yourself having done unless you were high as a fucking kite.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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wait, maybe he has a hairy ass and when he poops it gets stuck in there and then he washes it out in the shower.

[–]Agnostix 3 points4 points ago

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Why on earth would you be fascinated by this?

Your fascination fascinates me.

[–]mysteriousf 2 points3 points ago

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It's very unusual for someone to deliberately place or drop poop onto the edge of a bathtub; when people do unusual things that wouldn't ever cross my mind as something that would ever need to be done, I become fascinated!

[–]toiletcake 2 points3 points ago

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A friend's dog used to do that on their couch. He called it leaving hershey's kisses. Dunno, maybe he's sitting naked on the edge of the tub?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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My god..he'd really have to have seriously bad hygeine for that to occur..Like he doesn't wipe or even finish pooping?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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My roommate's puppy used to eat his own poo. Granted, I hear that's actually pretty common for puppies, but he was terribly disciplinned and a nasty dog - cute as all hell, but nasty.

[–]paperclop 5 points6 points ago

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i agreee with the others, you just have to be straight up about it. i also wouldn't worry too much about him being ashamed if you bring it up. he's not ashamed to have bad hygiene around you, so it shouldn't be a big shock to him when you express your discomfort with it.

as for whether or not he's depressed - he may be, or this may just be the "way he is." you might want to ask someone who grew up with him (mom, brother), if he was like this as a teenager, or only when he was depressed.

good luck : )

[–]skittixch 7 points8 points ago

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give him a truth-bomb and show him this thread. That should be enough of a wakeup call, and it'll show him that you don't want anything to come between your ability to communicate. The mere fact that you chose to vent on reddit, rather than bring it up as an "issue" to him shows that it's wearing down your ability to communicate...fix this, and everything else should fall into place

[–]Pilebsa 21 points22 points ago

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It blows me away that you can marry someone and then be afraid to talk with them honestly.

This is an example of two people who were not ready to be married.

You need to be able to feel completely at ease expressing whatever's on your mind with your spouse, and they should respect your feelings. That's like, prerequisite number one before even considering getting married.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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It's possible he's doing this stuff because he's getting away with what he can get away with. For example, if I had someone who would clean all of my dishes after I just left them there, then I'd probably start leaving my dishes around like that too.

It doesn't sound so terrible that you need an intervention right now, so I'd probably just try positive reinforcement and see if that works first. You know, be really happy when he does things right.

[–]photosensitiv 2 points3 points ago

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this was my first thought. if you're rinsing/washing his dishes for him, what does he care if there's food on it? you're gonna take care of it for him anyways.

[–]Concise_Pirate 8 points9 points ago

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Mental illness seems likely. He needs to see a doc.

[–]lilith480 8 points9 points ago

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Agreed. While he's at it, make him get a brain scan as well, since some tumors can cause personality changes.

[–]onfirewhenigothere 0 points1 point ago

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This. Totally.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points ago

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So he can prescribe him a concoction of name brand drugs that will do more harm than good. This guy needs therapy or self realization.

[–]Concise_Pirate 2 points3 points ago

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Fair point. In case of depression, a combination of short-term meds and long-term therapy is often ideal.

In much rarer case of a tumor etc., it's just medical.

[–]Noressa 4 points5 points ago

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I had to go through this with my ex husband, but not the final portion, thankfully. The hygiene was something I would discuss since it was to the point that I didn't want him touching me at all any more. Or kissing. Or anything else for that matter.

Be up front with him, be blunt and honest. It's really a terrible thing when you feel revulsion at the thought of him reaching out to hold you. It's still early (I let mine build for years) so you can possibly work this out with him. I wish you luck.

[–]photosensitiv 1 point2 points ago

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i feel like direct is the right approach. nothing passive-aggressive, just a plain, straight up " i don't want to kiss you when you don't brush your teeth for a week " should make it pretty clear to him. he should care how he is around you and what his actions do to affect your relationship

[–]Obsidian_77 6 points7 points ago

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It could also be schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder or some variant. The "negative" symptoms can be very subtle, but constitute a poverty of normal behaviors, meaning they stop doing normal things...having fun, talking, interacting, taking care of themselves, etc. The peak onset of schizophrenia and related disorders is late teens into the twenties.

Not trying to freak you out, but look at his behaviors and see if any of these fit. If so, call his doctor.

[–]smile0my0friends 2 points3 points ago

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This was my second thought, after depression. If there is an history of schizophrenia in the family it might be something to look into. Supposedly, negative symptoms are more easily treated than positive ones.

[–]Obsidian_77 1 point2 points ago* 

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...but much more debilitating. Negative symptoms are what make someone with schizophrenia not functional. If there's a family history, it makes it more likely. The biggest issue is identification. Hallucinations don't fly under the radar, but negative symptoms often do.

I'd see a doctor and get a diagnosis if a medical or psychiatric problem exists.

[–]smile0my0friends 1 point2 points ago

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Agreed.

[–]Sinnocent 2 points3 points ago

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He sounds very depressed. Very. Even hoarding, based on not throwing things away.

[–]RedErin 5 points6 points ago

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He's always been a slob, it's just that when he was trying to woo you, he would be on his best behavior, then when you're locked in, he's free to be who he really is. This same thing happens with abusers, they're extremely nice for a certain amount of time, then after you're married for a while and dependent on them, they're free to beat the shit out you.

Some way or another, you're going to have to nip this in the bud. Good luck finding the best way to break it to him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Mannnnn I'm kinda a slob when I'm at home but when I live at my dorm I clean up. Stop scaring me I do not want to be like this.

[–]smile0my0friends 1 point2 points ago

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Does your husband have any history of mental illness? He sounds like me when I'm extremely depressed (minus the poop thing, that I just don't get).

[–]binarytree 1 point2 points ago

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Sounds like he's messing with you. The only logical thing to do is say "So I ate some of that poop you left for me." I don't think he will ever poop on the tub again....although this will not help the tooth brushing issue...

[–]captjameswest 1 point2 points ago

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tell him to get his shit together. dont be worried about embarrassing him, hes your husband.

[–]MichB1 0 points1 point ago

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I'm sorry you're going through this and I'm sending you happy thoughts, whatever you want to call that.

Please keep in mind, "poop-leaving" is very, very serious thing. He needs help. I would take an active role in making sure he gets it, and is honest with the professionals.

[–]pussyham 0 points1 point ago

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It's gonna be awkward, but you have to be straight up with him and tell him that it's affecting your marriage and sex life, not to mention (undoubtedly) his mental and physical health. Just tell him you're concerned about him, and also about your relationship because this is affecting it. Tell him that you can't deal with it the way things are anymore, and it has to change or else you're going to have to focus on yourself and what's good for you, which may or may not involve moving on with your life without him. Ask him to let you help him, maybe by helping to find a therapist or figuring out what's wrong so you can contribute to his healing. Otherwise... follow through.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Wow...did he explain the poop in the bathtub? How does that even happen unless he's intentionally popping a squat?

[–]OompaOrangeFace 0 points1 point ago

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Reading this almost made me throw up. I am a guy, but I am very clean and neat. Get rid of this caveman now! Let him poop in his own bath tub.

[–]keepinithamsta 0 points1 point ago

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Sounds like you put up with a lot of shit. I would personally have a long discussion with him if I were you. Then I would leave him if things don't change for the best. Also, who the fuck shaves their pubes but doesn't do the the rest of the basic maintenance? How the hell would he get shit on the tub? He's obviously given up and to be honest, why not give up on him?

[–]burdalane 0 points1 point ago

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I can understand about the towel on the counter, not rinsing the dishes, and leaving fingernail clippings on the counter. I do that kind of thing all the time, and I don't have anyone to clean up after me. I still have a bunch of clippings on my bathroom counter because I didn't have a bag in the trash can at the time, and still don't.

The poop is nasty, though.

[–]ironsheikh 0 points1 point ago

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I'm sorry, but that's both gross and unacceptable. EVERYONE should have good hygiene. I'm sure yours is phenomenal. You need to tell him and be vocal about it, but also maintain your composure. Let him know that it bothers you very much and if that doesn't work, well, take another course of action.

[–]UnderTheRain 0 points1 point ago

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good thing reddit is anonymous...

[–]ghotisgirl06 0 points1 point ago

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I would use his toothbrush to clean the poop. Obviously he isn't using it. Then again, I am a sarcastic bitch ;)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Uh, it's not okay to stop taking care of yourself and your environment, especially if you're sharing with someone else.

Make him realise that.

[–]sparktika 0 points1 point ago

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I would ignore the household stuff for now and focus on the personal hygiene issues. I would write him a letter about it. Seeing it in black and white often works better for men. Be kind, but direct, and let him know what your expectations are.

[–]herropoobear 0 points1 point ago

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"plops of poop" is adorable

[–]wabbitbun 0 points1 point ago

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To me the behaviour seems more like asking for attention or some kind of reaction from you. Like he wants you to get angry and show some emotion over this. To show that you care. And every time he does something unacceptable, you just say nothing, clean up, and continue your daily routine. Must be really exciting for both of you.

Have you tried with "you look so cute when you're shaved" or "go brush your teeth for kisses" or ask him to take out the dishes from the dishwasher or hoover or hang the laundry.

[–]xixspiderxix 0 points1 point ago

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Hmmm.... OK let's look at the positives here.

1) He trims up his fingernails 2) He trims up his pubes 3) He's crapping in your tub...... OK wait...You're finding poop in your tub? On more than one occasion?

[–]joazito 0 points1 point ago

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Ewww.

[–]bilabrin -2 points-1 points ago

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It's weird that you have been married 2 years and you are just finding out about this behavior.

[–]anastasiabeverhausen 1 point2 points ago

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People change. It's happens. One of the joys of marriage is that you are tied to this wonderful ever-changing person until death(/divorce)-do-you-part.

[–]Missybeth 0 points1 point ago

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This is new behavior silly

[–]brettrosey -1 points0 points ago

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This guy sounds like he is a little "slow" if you get what I am saying. Anybody that is in the shower, takes a dump on the side of the shower and doesn't proceed to clean it up has some mental issues for sure.

Perhaps he has aspergers or a degenerated frontal lobe.

[–]Usual_Advice -1 points0 points ago

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[–]Cryogen_at_work -5 points-4 points ago

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Maybe he's gay?

EAT DA POO POO!

[–]undapanda -2 points-1 points ago

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=D +1 for you