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Crit chance AD carry (self.leagueoflegends)

submitted ago by Ziggy1505

Hi! I wonder if it's worth running with 1 (or more) crit quins, Seeing as they nerfed the crit mastery. That random crit could be game changing, so mainly i wonder if it's worth sacrificing some AD lvl 1 for early crit instead of waiting until Brawler's Gloves?

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[–]sweetums124 5 points6 points ago

I think I remember Wickd saying he runs a bit of crit chance with his runes now when he plays GP, just because critting parley in lane is so rediculous.

[–]Ziggy1505[S] 0 points1 point ago

Thats what i'm also thinking, that little crit can be game changing

[–]Praxis1452[Praxis1452] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

The answer is obviously yes. You only need 4 crit marks to get the same amount of crit as the mastery. that's 4 less ad. 1 lucky crit vs. 4 ad overall.

That crit is what will make the difference if you get it. And if you don't, I don't think 4 ad will.

4ad is worth the ability to crit at lvl 1 to whenever people get crit chance items, which if you go double dorans into inf edge, can be quite a while before you get it. This gives you a large advantage. I can't see a reason not to run some crit runes.

[–]Nostalgia_Guy[W1re] (NA) 2 points3 points ago

http://i.imgur.com/PvC1d.gif

[–]Ziggy1505[S] 0 points1 point ago

To me this answer seems like you mean that 1 crit rune over 1 AD rune is pretty much waste of everything, and that i won't help you at all. Could you please explain why you feel so?

[–]Nostalgia_Guy[W1re] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

Because (imo) the base stat increase of AD increases your damage done on every attack.

While critting is nice, not having as much damage early because you're hoping the RNG gods smile on you is not.

[–]kodutta7 1 point2 points ago

It depends on your champion. If you're playing GP, it is worth it to give up a tiny bit of AD because if parley crits in the first couple levels it's either an easy kill or at least wins you your lane.

[–]CapNRoddy[Roderick Brookes] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

Until you reach 100% crit and you're dealing absurd damage.

[–]Decentdeceit[A Decent Deceit] (EU-W) 0 points1 point ago

I thought about the exact same thing today. I am already doing it on some bruisers, but didn't actually manage to try it out today. I'll edit if I come to do it, most likely tomorrow since it's late in europe.

[–]Soulblighter7 0 points1 point ago

My advice would be to try this out on a champion with a powerful AD steroid, like Master Yi (Double Strike can be a Double Critical if you're lucky), Dr. Mundo or Sion.

These are the guys that are just off the top of my head. Oh, Gangplank too I guess. Also Twitch and Vayne get AD Steroid ultimates and Nocturne has a skillshot which gives him AD (Umbra Blades can have a Critical Strike chance by the way, very sexy).

[–]AsianLlama 0 points1 point ago

"Master Yi's second strike from his passive cannot crit"

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[–]Ziggy1505[S] 1 point2 points ago

It can't crit, but it will do the same dmg as the first strike does, so if the first strike crits then it will deal the same amount of dmg :)

[–]Soulblighter7 0 points1 point ago

What? Whaaat? When was this? Goddamnit, now I'm sad!

[–]Ziggy1505[S] 0 points1 point ago

It's been like this the whole time if i'm not too wrong

[–]Fencemuffin 0 points1 point ago

Never on AD carry, the only one I'd consider using crit runes on is GP due to Parrrley's ridiculous crit damage.

AD carries have no skills that benefit from crits like that, only Miss Fortune and Ezreal (IIRC) even have skills that proc on-hit effects.

TL;DR: NO!

[–]RielDealJr[RielDeal] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

Ez Q can't crit, and idk about MF.

[–]Fencemuffin 0 points1 point ago

I didn't bother checking facts so my claims might be total bollocks.

If they don't, even more of a reason not to use crit runes!

[–]CapNRoddy[Roderick Brookes] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

MFs can't crit.

[–]charlesviper[gotm1lk] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

A little bit of crit chance is not bad. Yes, on average you will do less damage, but if everyone wanted more damage "on average" people would build 40% CDR on AP carries before touching AP.

A little bit of crit chance (and I do mean, a little bit of crit chance -- don't devote your reds or quints to it, maybe one or two reds or one quint) will mean that you will get a double damage attack every couple hundred attacks.

The thing is that you need to stay in a position where you can capitalize on crits. Champs like Corki are great with this as the critical strike sort of factors into the frontloaded burst of Valkyrie + Q + R + autoattack.

Burst damage is king and there is a noticable difference between 0% and 1% crit in lane. One crit rune will give you less damage overall but will give you 100 autoattacks worth of one AD rune should you crit. It's a gamble, and you lose out on the long run / "average", but it's all about capitalizing on that crit.

[–]forthelol -1 points0 points ago

No point of critting if you don't have the base damage to back it up

[–]Ziggy1505[S] 0 points1 point ago

I'm usually running AD red, armor yellow, MR blue and AD quins. So i have around 70 AD lvl 1, with that 1 crit rune instead of AD i will loose 2 ad, so i will still have quite some base dmg And if i run Dorans blade first i will get even 10 more AD, and i have have Sona in my lane i will have 8 more :)

[–]forthelol 0 points1 point ago

But you have to be able to grab your IE quick, otherwise the opposing AD will out damage you and poke you harder than you poke them. A scenario that explains what you're asking is the common misconception of Vayne and stacking PDs over getting a BT. Your auto-attacks critting with no base damage is nothing compared to the opposing AD getting a BT or an IE. You're offsetting your AD to get a bit of attack speed and crit chance.

I've laned with an MF that ran a full page of Crit damage runes, and a Vayne that ran a full page of Crit chance runes. They both went for PD stacking and ultimately had no damage, costing us the game because the opposing AD was able to build an IE by the time MF/Vayne built a PD and a Zeal. Sure they had 2 Doran's Blades, but that's negligible when the other AD has a BT. Sure they have slower attack speeds and less crit chances, but they have sustained damage.

[–]Praxis1452[Praxis1452] (NA) 1 point2 points ago

The ability to crit at lvl 1 to whenever people grab the IE is worth 4 ad or so. you need 4 crit marks to ~get 4% crit chance. 4 ad or 4% crit. Given that early level crits can really help win a lane, it's obviously worth it.

4 ad will not make or break a trade. Critting someone will.

[–]MrTyx[MrTyx] (NA) 0 points1 point ago

Short answer, without math. No. Just run AD.

Remember you were getting crit for speccing in a tree you already wanted to reach the bottom of.

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