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[–]y0y 3 points4 points ago

Most of the guys 30+ that compete from my school just consider 30+ yet another division they can compete in. They still compete with the young guys.

[–]kyt 3 points4 points ago

I'd stick with adults for smaller tourneys because masters division are smaller.

Pan Ams you could probably go to masters because the field will be deep plus you don't have to qualify for absolute.

[–]Hawlwadig 0 points1 point ago

Wait a minute, how are you competing in the adults anyways? Don't they ask you to show your drivers license at weigh ins?

Anyway, its up to you I guess. Whenever you feel like you can no longer keep up with younger competitors.

[–]ben26Bruno Pano 2 points3 points ago

You are allowed to fight down an age group (except kids groups obviously). They consider it like fighting up a weight class

[–]Hesperus 7 points8 points ago

Wait, you're saying I can't fight kids? Why the heck am I doing this jujitsoo stuff then?

[–]uggzorz3-stripe[S] 0 points1 point ago

Good question, and no, they don't ask for id to compete, good point though, I usually just fill out the online form and input the birthday.

But at least here (Canada/Ontario) we don't need to provide our drivers license.

[–]cresquinI am a Robot 0 points1 point ago

They just want to make sure the guy who signed up is the guy fighting. They don't care about your age if you're fighting in the adult bracket.

[–]KintanonRomero "Jacare" Cavalcanti 2 points3 points ago

I'm about to turn 32 and I generally compete in both when possible.

[–]BJJLIFE1 Stripe - Gustavo Dantas Nova Uniao 1 point2 points ago

It's up to you and your coach in my opinion. I am 34 to and sometimes the blue belt bracket is filled to the brim with my own team mates I will by pass the adult division and go for the masters.

[–]uggzorz3-stripe[S] 0 points1 point ago

it's funny you mention that, this past weekend at a tournament I had to "rock/paper/scissor" a teammate because we met in the semi's. I took 3rd and he took 2nd.

Out of the 20 in the division, 5 were from our school. I will remember that next time :), thanks!

[–]mysterybruise 1 point2 points ago

I don't get this, why don't you just fight each other?

[–]cresquinI am a Robot 0 points1 point ago

You don't fight guys from you own club for a few reasons.

1) if you meet earlier than the final, it effectively gives the guy who advances a bye leaving him more fresh than his opponent, giving your club an advantage. If you meet in the final, your team gets both medals anyway.

2) Jiu-Jitsu is a team sport and if I'm gonna compete, I'm gonna fight as dirty as the rules allow. Forearm and elbow in the face and neck, knee in the groin, knee on neck, and other inelegant but effective pressure moves are are common place on the competition mat but my teammates are my friends. I don't want to do that shit to my friends because I want to keep my friends.

[–]mysterybruise 0 points1 point ago

Thanks man, I've never heard it explained that way before. But I have to say I don't like the smell of it... I'll try to explain without being a dick.

The fundamental question seems to be whether BJJ is an individual or a team sport. To me it's an individual contest. I don't mean to downplay the importance of my club and training partners, but at it's core grappling is a one on one competition.

I think that the essence of good competition is for both sides to be as even as possible. That's why we have grades and weight classes. Trying to engineer the draw, so that you or your team mate effectively get a bye seems pretty unsportsmanlike to me. It's quite disrespectful to the other grapplers competing who may not be afforded the same opportunity (or think that taking such an opportunity is the right thing to do).

To my mind a sense of sportsmanship and fair play should mean that you fight whoever you're matched with. If it's your team mate so be it.

Like anyone else, I prefer not to fight my friends, but if that's how the draw falls, I hope that we both love this sport enough to understand that these things happen, that we go hard at each other for 5-6 minutes and that we remain friends afterwards. If we don't, we probably weren't friends anyway.

[–]cresquinI am a Robot 0 points1 point ago

It's a team sport, man. Try to learn grappling on your own.

[–]mysterybruise 0 points1 point ago

You could say the same for a lot of sports that have an opponent. Is squash a team sport, boxing? You have a team you train with, but it's not a team contest.

[–]BJJLIFE1 Stripe - Gustavo Dantas Nova Uniao 1 point2 points ago

In 2010 at the Arizona State Championship there were 10 guys in the division 8 of which were from my own team. Sucks to have to compete against the guys you are training for the tournament with. I ended up filling in the Masters Division and then went on to the open division. Good luck out there!

[–]chessboxer 0 points1 point ago

So....master's division is optional? Meaning, if you want to compete against >29 year olds, you can?

[–]uggzorz3-stripe[S] 0 points1 point ago

It's optional if you want to compete against the younger/faster opponents (if you're a master and choose to compete adult).

Not the other way around. Just like an adult could not compete in the junior division (<18).

By all means, compete in Masters if you are under 29, personally doesn't matter to me.

I think BJJ should not have age limits...18+ is good enough for me.

[–]ben26Bruno Pano 4 points5 points ago

I think BJJ should not have age limits...18+ is good enough for me.

I think once you're pushing 45-50 your thoughts on this will change

[–]mysterybruise 0 points1 point ago

I'm 36 - they're not faster yet... they are younger though.