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[–]rubymiggins 5 points6 points ago

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Your best bet is to find a caretaker sort of situation. IOW, somewhere you can live rent free. Hotel... apartment building. You'll have to investigate. Another option might be to get into the house-sitting business for wealthy people who move around seasonally.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 2 points3 points ago

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This sounds promising. Does anyone have any experience doing this, or know where I can investigate this further, beyond a cursory google search?

[–]gauguin 2 points3 points ago

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yes, i did this for about a year. i knew the guy for a long time, though, while i was growing up. his family bought a 12k sq ft home in atlanta, but spent most of their time in florida. i basically cut the grass and watched the house. he let me drive their cars and i partied at the massive house while they were away. needless to say, it was awesome. i was about 24. he paid me $500/week, and i lived in an apartment above the five car garage for free. i don't have any idea how else you could get started, since i knew the family already. but it's a good gig, if you can score one. good luck.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 1 point2 points ago

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They still looking for a housesitter? :P

[–]artholeflaffer 2 points3 points ago

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Caretakers Gazeete has listings but you have to subscribe. You can place an ad listing your vitae and what you are looking for. I lived and worked in a Youth Hostel. It was a work exchange allowing me plenty of time to work a paying job. I have also lived on farms, a nature preserve a retreat and a private park where a human presence was needed but work was minimal. Just tell everyone you know what you are looking for and it will happen. Looking in rural print want ads, contacting state organic farm organization newsletters and WWOOF (willing workers on organic farms) are ways of tracking down interesting housing.

[–]ooa7oo 0 points1 point ago

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Don't forget to check out storage rental places. A lot of times the private ones will offer you a wage and a place to live (small apartment) because they need someone on location for security. I'm not sure what the requirements are but my friend just got offered a job for $15 an hour + apartment.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Really? This is outrageous, and I've never heard that before. Do you have any info I could follow up on or is that all you know about this little tidbit?

[–]Trunkbutt 4 points5 points ago

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Too bad you prefer somewhere in the States - I lived quite the comfy life for a while in Costa Rica making about that much.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 4 points5 points ago

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If it were good enough, I'd have no problem departing! I'd love it if you would share some details!

[–]Trunkbutt 6 points7 points ago

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Sure! I rented a condo in Playa Jaco owned by someone who lived in San Jose - got it by just going up to the gate and expressing my intention to rent a place to live. I paid my utilities to them (always a fun process for someone with super limited Spanish). Most people in town spoke some English, and everyone was tolerant of my terrible Spanish. Food was dirt cheap, rent was cheap, and my condo came with linens. Lots of interesting wildlife. Beach right there - at the time, Internet connections in homes were relatively rare (early 2000s) but now it's much more common. I did all my work at home and via disk at the computer cafes. Neat place to live! Most people I met who weren't planning on buying or building property, were there unofficially. As in their tourist visas ran out and they just didn't go home.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Awesome. Thank you for sharing. I would certainly consider something like that. I'd definitely be down to live some place cheap down there, preferably with good diving/snorkeling, and the living is cheap and easy. Mmm! Think Jaco is a good bet?

[–]Trunkbutt 1 point2 points ago

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I'm not sure - since I was there, they've gone crazy developing with gringo dollars. Real supermarket, movie theatre, etc. If I was going back, I'd look into less developed beach towns in CR. Pacific side seems to be your best bet.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 0 points1 point ago

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How is the diving on the Pacific side, if you know.

[–]Trunkbutt 0 points1 point ago

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Can't say personally whether it's awesome, but there sure are a lot of people around doing it. Presumably if it sucked, it wouldn't be such a big thing. Plenty of the local gringos were into it.

[–]---sniff--- 0 points1 point ago

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were you studying for an MBA?

[–]Trunkbutt 0 points1 point ago

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Nope, just doing the smallest possible amount of freelance work and enjoying myself!

[–]---sniff--- 0 points1 point ago

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Just curious if you were a guy I knew.

[–]specialkake 0 points1 point ago

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I looked into moving there, but the immigration seemed like it would be difficult.

[–]Trunkbutt 0 points1 point ago

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Most of the people I know who moved there didn't bother going through official channels.

[–]jaggederest 3 points4 points ago

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You can basically live on a resort for that in Thailand, if you don't mind moving.

The hard part is getting the money to get over there - once you're there, $300 a month is 3-5 times what the locals make.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 0 points1 point ago

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This would be outside of Bangkok and Chiang Mai? Where in Thailand should I go?

[–]jaggederest 0 points1 point ago

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I don't really have any first hand knowledge, but I know one of my friends lives there and contracts about 15 hours a month to survive. He makes about $100 an hour and pays virtually no tax, so he lives the high life with a rented house and maid/gardener/cook. I think he's in south thailand, but I'm not really sure.

There are a few hassles, like needing to go out of the country to get your visa renewed - that can be a few days out of your way every quarter.

[–]smacksaw 2 points3 points ago

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Belize...not just Costa Rica. But in Belize they speak English.

Anyway, is this $300 after rent or you have to pay rent and food ON this $300?

I have two places in the US, one in upstate NY and the other in WA. You could BUY a house around...Rouses Point (where I have a house), Malone...somewhere along the border and pay about $100/mo mortgage and maybe another $100 in property taxes. Then find roommates and you'll make money. To rent it costs a few hundred, so that's about what you could make if you had separate entrances. Sadly you'll pay more in property and school taxes than your mortgage. But because the economy is down, old people live and die here and unemployment is high, housing is just dirt cheap. Around Buffalo and Ohio you can find similar prices, but it's more dangerous and crowded. It's MELLOW in the North Country/Northern tier.

The other place (which is my official US address) is Point Roberts, WA. It's the world's largest gated community. Meaning you must cross a border to enter or exit. Due to some spat with the Canadians we ended up getting this tiny peninsula that's 5 square miles. You can't go in or out unless by boat or crossing the border. If you have any sort of criminal record you're inadmissible to Canada, so you can't get out. Thus, no one locks their doors or anything. It's pretty much crime free.

Another cool thing is that everyone there is either a Canadian with vacation home or someone like you. What few businesses there are need people. So if you want to pick up an easy $10/hr, work at the USA Gas or something. Also, gas prices are in litres there, which is always funny...

My roommate was a presales engineer for HP before he got Carly Fiorina'd. He just kinda downscaled his life and does odd jobs now. No biggie. You can ride a bike anywhere, ride a horse. No one fucking cares. People are always looking to make an extra buck to keep the dream alive, so you can find a roommate situation. Or you can rent something in the woods and find a roommate yourself. My friend is trying to build a shelter, live totally off the grid and await the upcoming world apocalypse...hahahaha. But there's a saying about Point Roberts: "We're all here because we're not all there"

Vancouver isn't cheap at all, but if you cruise up to the city you have everything you want. And because you're American you live around houses that are $600k-$1m in Tsawwassen that are in a great neighbourhood. You don't really need to drive unless it's raining and you can't get all wet. You can just bike up to the border and shop in Tsawwassen or shop on the Point. You can also catch the 6xx bus into town and stick your bike on front.

[–]zjunk 2 points3 points ago

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I see Thailand here - another Asian option would be teaching English in South Korea. I did it for a few years - good wage, fully paid airfare and apartment, and light working hours (25-30/week). Lot of folks I knew paid down their student debt substantially or completely within a year. Fairly enjoyable place to live as well. Checkout eslcafe.com for job postings.

[–]qxcvr 1 point2 points ago

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Man, I always wanted to do that... Oh well, maybe someday.

[–]zjunk 2 points3 points ago

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Hey, so a few people asked about this as well - I'm always happy to talk about Korea -brings me back to a really happy place and time in my life. I decided to write up a little bit about it, and do a mini-AMA. I doubt it will get very high on the reddits, but I figured, hey, if a few people are interested or have questions, maybe I can be a resource. Here's the link. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/dzdlk/teaching_in_korea_mini_ama/

[–]zjunk 1 point2 points ago

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Why not today? (That's rhetorical, clearly). It's pretty easy to do - PM me if you ever get serious about it and would like advice. Great years, I'm frequently tempted to go back for round 2.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I'd love more details on this. There are so many websites about it I always suspect at least some of them are scams...

[–]zjunk 1 point2 points ago

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Hey, so a few people asked about this - I decided to do a mini-AMA. There's SO much info, so if there's anything specific I can answer, let me know. Great experience though.

Here's the link - http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/dzdlk/teaching_in_korea_mini_ama/

[–]rufius 2 points3 points ago

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Texas is actually great for housing costs. You can easily rent for $300/$400 a month by yourself which means if you get a roommate, then you're set to pay half that. Texas doesn't have the housing bubble that most states have because they already went through their boom/bust in the 80's with the oil industry. Very little variation in the market for Texas. Texas was one of the least hit by the recession due to this fact.

[–]specialkake 1 point2 points ago

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$300 a month? Mexico?

[–]casperrosewater 1 point2 points ago

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Four corners was always my dream but I could never pull the trigger because the only jobs are service/hospitality or extraction (mining or oil).

St. George would be the place to go. It is the only city (as opposed to town) and has the least Mormon influence (many transplants). Winter days are 65 degrees all winter long.

The other thing about St. George is, not only do you get the red rock canyons, you get the Mojave Desert to the west and the Great Basin mountain range (and an airport one hour away in Vegas) to the south, all within driving range. That, to me, is heaven.

Otherwise Salt Lake. You can be in the red rock of the San Raphael Swell within a two hour drive. You'll wear out many a hiking boot and sets of tires exploring the Swell alone. Plus Salt Lake is surrounded by mountains. You can be at 8000' in twenty minutes and travel on either mountains or the Colorado Plateau clear through to Colorado. Vernal, the northern tip of the plateau is only 3 hours. From Salt Lake you can even take a train close to Moab (the Thompson Flats stop is very close).

Good luck.

[–]uglyredbag 1 point2 points ago

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Detroit, Michigan.

[–]akatherder 2 points3 points ago

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Sorry, the rental market is pretty high right now. Unless you have $10k to buy a house, you're going to be spending at least $500/month for rent.

[–]Phokus 0 points1 point ago

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I'm curios as to what you do that would net you minimum wage either that, or you're working part time...

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I work part-time doing some writing and editing for websites.

[–]vurplesun -1 points0 points ago

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Get a full time gig to supplement the part time gig.

[–]SelfOwnership[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Now why'd I want to go and do something silly like that?!

[–]qxcvr 0 points1 point ago

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Whew, thats a tough one. I would have trouble eating off that kind of money. Im guessing you are talking about camping? I could not imagine actually renting something to live in for that and still eat. Get a good reliable japanese car or truck and a canvas wall tent. They can be reasonably warm and are highly waterproof. some can even take a small wood stove for cooking and heat.
My advice would be to keep your eyes peeled in any high desert, but also in the southern Appalachian mountains. Lots of people basically squat the camp sights for months on end in wall tents in the Pisgah National Forest. One could do this pretty much year around because it never really gets cold except in late winter for a few months. Also, I heard a place on the coast of south western Oregon called Brookings has warm though wet weather year around. You probably could camp in the mountains there for ever. There are a lot of mountains.