Being a Christian Redditor, I find this verse very encouraging.

Instantiation · 6 months

I prefer The Message translation: "Haters gon' hate."

LetUsGoThenYouAndI · 6 months

To be clear, Jesus is not saying you will be hated because of how some people misuse his name. But because if you are truely following him - that will go against the grain of the rich, the powerful, the governments that promote war; and they will want to stop you.

One_Letter_Shor · 6 months

Awesome verse and fantastic reminder. Thank you.

sambrosia · 6 months

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the reminder. I needed that today.

DevilYouKnow · 6 months

A very stressful day - a big birthday party at our house coupled with my grandfather having a stroke. I'm just so tired of negativity. Life is short. We have to be peaceful, faithful, and full of thanks.

enterence · 6 months

Hey there. Fellow Christian here. The hate is not because of Christ but rather because of the hypocrisy we Christians pull... fighting tooth and nail to prevent equal rights, in general trying best to FORCE our morality on others, something which Jesus never asked us to.

Lastly we can't whine about people voicing their opinions and call that hate.. hate is what Christians did to the non believers, the Indians, the native south Americans., I can go on .. considering the amount of injustice done in the name of our Lord we should be working hard at correcting those mistakes... not quoting some cool bible verse.

digitabulist · 6 months

I sometimes feel the atheists on here are as bad as they say the Christians are. Some atheists show as much intolerance and hate toward Christians as they claim Christians show to homosexuals and other groups.

rvlution · 6 months

This is encouraging. I'm glad I found this subreddit. I think this will help spur my own faith along.

wonkifier · 6 months

It's a funny thing, I remember at the first church I really attended, Mark 13:13 was pretty much used in reverse.

If we weren't being hated, we weren't trying hard enough.

agnijd · 6 months

Thank you. That's very encouraging.

killerkram · 6 months

Nice verse, I hold that one close when I come to the internet

Its a dangerous place! Take this!

ricbah · 6 months

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lookatmyrangsmyrangs · 6 months

I am an Atheists and I still think Jesus was a cool dude. His teachings were great. I just don't think he was a real person. Just a really great character in an interesting fictional book. EDIT: When I say I don't think he was a real person, I mean not in the way the bible depicts him. I realize that there was a man named Jesus who lived but I don't blieve he was divine or performed any of the miracles the bible claims.

WickedRoot · 6 months

i love you all.

JugglingReferee · 6 months

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.

lakingscrzy · 6 months

I love you guys. You are my flickering candle in the darkness.

old_merc · 6 months

I think the atheist temperament on reddit is more a combination of disappointment and frustration, not hate.

The Mark quote is a perfect example of why we are frustrated. This quote allows you to automatically rebuff any criticism in any form without any thought. In fact it allows a believer to think that being hated is a good thing. As if being hated is an indicator that you're doing something right. We can't have a reasoned conversation with you because you abandoned reason for faith. Just think about people born into any cult and how bad you feel for them. You're indoctrinated and we can't help you and it makes us feel useless. That's my perspective as an atheist.

BrewCrew12 · 6 months

I am currently reading through Matthew, and I agree with your statement of how Jesus is impeccable. Every story, everything He says in response to the pharisees questions is just awesome (for lack of a better word). Thanks for the post!

gunny16 · 6 months

Thanks for the verse. I also wanted to add this if you don't mind :)

Romans 12:2.

Kind_Of_A_Dick · 6 months

What does Mark 13:12 say? Mark 13:14? It's an interesting passage but it shouldn't be taken out of context.

Lurker4years · 6 months

Not to help the atheists, but "the one who stands firm to the end will be saved" seems like a self-authenticating statement.

krissypants4000 · 6 months

That is awesome. Just what I needed to hear this evening; thanks!

chewis · 6 months

Wonderful. Jesus knew so well the way the world would react.

ElBrad · 6 months

The day that Christians actually follow the word of their god and stop trying to interfere with the lives of others, is the day they will see less hatred.

The day they behave as Christ would have, is the day people will stop calling them hypocrites.

the_mattador · 6 months

I am curious... Does everyone hate you? Everyone? If not, then how can this verse be true?

A_Prattling_Gimp · 6 months

I am an atheist and I don't hate theists at all, and not all atheists are anti-theists or gnostic-atheists.

"Hate the theism, not the theist".

edit - correction in bold.

midnightninja069 · 6 months

Appreciate the verse, Ricbah. You have no idea how encouraging that is.

Keep the faith, my friend.

ndeffer · 6 months

Thank you so much for this. That verse is always so encouraging, especially in times of doubt/oppression.

we_need_ice · 6 months

Dude. You rock.

txrangers2011 · 6 months

Very good verse. I love Reddit, but a lot of people are subscribed to this subreddit just to pounce on every post/comment we make. It really is disheartening, because the front page preaches peace and tolerance on social issues. Yet, every time something that has to do with Christianity is posted, it is shot down.

chosen-vessel · 6 months

Their hatred only makes me appreciate the love of my brothers and sisters like you. God bless

sawser · 6 months

Most of us don't disdain Christians (I'm married to one). Just being forced to act like one ;) - Or being forced to watch people twist the message for hateful political reasons.

InconsideratePrick · 6 months

Everyone will hate you because of me

Assuming Christians follow Jesus' second greatest commandment of loving your neighbour as yourself then where do you suppose the hate comes from? Christians shouldn't feel hated if they're just following the teachings of Jesus, as far as I can tell most people still think Jesus was an ok guy.

dev_bacon · 6 months

Thank you, that was really encouraging.

BlaiseRascal · 6 months

There is so little historicity about the life of Jesus that it's impossible to know if he was an "impeccable" characterization of mankind. And he probably didn't say that quote verbatim.

Yes, I have disdain for willful ignorance. I think that's justified, however, when people tell me they KNOW Jesus, a 2,000 year-old dead Jewish guy, can hear their thoughts and grants their wishes. You can call me a meanie, but that's like saying, "I want to believe in unicorns, I just don't want anyone to think I'm weird or stupid."

Ishmael999 · 6 months

Matthew 15:26: He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs." (Referring to a Samaritan woman)

Matthew 21:19: Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered.

Mark 5:13: He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.

These are off the top of my head and not exhaustive. Definitely impeccable character.

Thanks for telling me why I'm an atheist.

Skooj · 6 months

Well said, OP. I should remember this more often. Thank you!

ReconZeppelin · 6 months

Thanks.

fritzthehippie · 6 months

Very inspirational. Thanks bud.

abw1987 · 6 months

Sadly I'm not sure reddit's hate is solely pointed towards those who "talk the talk but don't walk the walk", but towards all Christians in general.

For instance, I saw this comment today: http://i.imgur.com/sGVEq.jpg (Usually I'm unsubscribed from r/atheism, but I visited reddit from my phone and was not logged in.)

None of the people in this comic did anything "wrong" to contradict their sin. It seems like the person who submitted the comic just finds all religious people to be stupid. :(

ehrensw · 6 months

I find it overly convenient whenever a christian says, yes, but they aren't real christians. Westboro is every bit real christians.

Having read the bible, I can see that they are in fact holding quite true to the teachings of the book. They are assholes, and I don't find them agreeable at all, but they are definitely christians. More Paul than Jesus, but definitely christians.

Just saying they aren't real christians does not make anything better. Address the fact that they are in many ways truer to the bible and that they are disliked by most christians. Then you will find real progress has been made.

EntinludeX · 6 months

I encourage you to read the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

And note how they conflict with one another.

Examine the character of Christ and ask yourself if He is truly someone you would not want to identify yourself with.

The incarnate genocidal bloodthirsty desert god who impregnated a teenager in the middle of the desert in order to incarnated on earth to fake his own death to serve as a loophole to a capital punishment rule he made? No....

Mark 13:13 -"Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved."

And yet atheists are the least trusted demographic on earth. Funny story, bro.

alfereti · 6 months

Thank you for this verse! I was impressed by this point a brother told me. We are living similar times to the early Church where people will mock or even persecute you for being Christian but we don't need any divine powers or strength to endure through but just the humanity of Jesus. This can espeacially be seen in the type of the Ark, covered in gold but essentially made of acacia wood.

iwashere33 · 6 months

but couldn't anyone else have said that exact same thing? - for example if satan said the same thing would he still be the bad guy? in fact, isn't the entire concept of good and bad just a different viewpoint. i mean, look at the story of how in the harry potter series Snape was thought to be many things (including the bad guy) but after learning a few more things about him we come to find that he was fighting for what he believed in.

i'm just saying that believing in something wihout knowing everything is what you call blind faith, i call it ignorance.

Meekois · 6 months

Disdain for Christianity? Atheism rate is at an all time high around here. The fact of the matter is, most redditors don't want to talk about religion at all. Any attempts to do so are usually shot down.

ralexis · 6 months

oh the poor Christians are feeling oppressed...

LtDanHasLegs · 6 months

In the first part of your post you said, "Most of this hate is pointed towards Christians... (that are hypocrites)"

But the verse you posted says nothing of getting caught in crossfire because someone else is a hypocrite. It says people will hate you because of Jesus.

That doesn't seem the same to me.

arkmtech · 6 months

The atheist who hates the Christian is as righteous than the Christian who hates the atheist: Regardless of religion or lack thereof, hate is never right, nor virtuous, nor justifiable.

cyrusjumpjet · 6 months

Thank you :)

Tjgalloway · 6 months

aw man, that must suck being a minority on reddit... to bad the real world doesn't give a single fuck about that and we have corrupt religious crazies running for office denying same sex marriages... who are you to tell who someone can love? or heck, even in day to day life most of these american redditors that have these atheistic viewpoints get religion jammed down their throats... but like i said it must suck being the minority on reddit and not a 'Democratic society' that governs your day to day activities of the real world... but then again your christian and you wouldn't know what the 'real world' was even if it hit you with a mutated gene...

NotLikeYou · 6 months

Thanks for this... While most of my high school friends have similar beliefs as me, I am constantly surrounded by my old college friends, who are almost entirely atheists. Most of them tend to keep their beliefs/non-beliefs to themselves but my current roommate, who just got a shiny new Dawkins book, loves to regurgitate everything he has "learned." Usually it doesn't bother me because I am well equipped to deal with it, however, it does wear down on me every once in a while. Having not seen this quote in quite a while, I feel much better.

thedemonkilla · 6 months

To be fair, Christians have brought it upon themselves with their hypocrisy and not living out Christ's teachings in their day to day lives. And on top of that, insisting that others be like them. I can see the atheist viewpoint.

DirtySketel · 6 months

I don't think the atheist community of Reddit hates Christians. In fact, we like having you around. We do make fun, but I think it's more the beliefs themselves which we ridicule. We make a lot of jokes, but hate really isn't the word.

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