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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

Maybe instead of working out, you could find some sort of sport or active activity that you enjoy? Like, if you're playing on a softball team or taking dance classes, it's about the softball or the dancing, not necessarily about the exercise. It'd be more about the fun you have doing the activity than the end result of better health/weight loss.

[–]wildhorses[S] 1 point2 points ago

That's a good idea! And I actually have been planning on starting some belly dancing class, have done that before and enjoyed it. The problem is that I won't be able to afford more than 1-2 times a week. And it feels like that wouldn't be enough to become visibly more fit. I don't know how to accept that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

Hmm, I'm not sure how to help you with getting over the need to become more visibly physically fit, but even if you're only going to class once or twice a week, you can always take time to practice at home in front of the TV?

[–]wildhorses[S] 1 point2 points ago

I think my main problem is that whenever I start to exercise, I become obsessed with it. Simply because I can't stand being normal weight. I have some weights at home so I can use them outside of the dancing lessons, but I always end up feeling guilty every day that I don't use them..

[–]camelliagirl 1 point2 points ago

Do you really need to become "visibly more fit?" I mean, unless you can see your actual heart and liver and shit it seems like it's the invisible parts that matter. :P

[–]wildhorses[S] 0 points1 point ago

Maybe I translated poorly, I'm not a native English speaker. I mean that I feel like I need visible results of my exercising.

[–]camelliagirl 0 points1 point ago

Do you mean visible like something you can see with your eyes? Or maybe something more like tangible, results you can feel?

[–]wildhorses[S] 0 points1 point ago

I mean like visibly more muscles and less fat, or loosing weight, less cellulites and so on..

[–]camelliagirl 1 point2 points ago

Then you got across fine. Those aren't the important things!

[–]wildhorses[S] 1 point2 points ago

I know that with my head, but somehow I can't shake the fear of someone looking at my cellulites and like judging me and those kind of things. But yeah, in reality, visible muscles and little fat isn't necessarily important for being fit and healthy.

[–]camelliagirl 1 point2 points ago

It's okay to have that fear, I think most people do. Societally, it's easy to get that fear into you.

You can have that fear and not act on it, though, right?

[–]wildhorses[S] 1 point2 points ago

When I was like 10 kg lighter I almost never had that fear though. But yeah, I try not to act on it. I just wished I could not only accept and tolerate this body, but actually like it. Even if some skinny girls will judge me for it :P

[–]hlkolaya 3 points4 points ago

I think that you need to perhaps see a therapist- obsessive exercising especially with regards to weight can sometimes be classified as exercise addiction or as part of an eating disorder (especially since you also mention guilt over food). What if you took a class? that way your ability to do that particular exercise (i think dance would be a good one) would be limited by how often the class was.

You say that 1-2 times per week wouldn't be enough to become thinner (or, as you put it, look visibly fit, but fitness isn't necessarily a visible thing), but that's why a class is probably best- you need to stay away from exercises that will trigger obsessive thoughts and guilt over food or your weight.

[–]wildhorses[S] 2 points3 points ago

I'm going to start taking dancing lessons, hopefully that's going to be fun and not put too much pressure on me. I would love to go to therapy but I can't really afford it at the moment. I have a therapist I visit whenever I'm in my home country, but that's just 1-2 times a year.

you need to stay away from exercises that will trigger obsessive thoughts and guilt over food or your weight.

That's what I've been thinking as well. It feels good to hear someone else say it. But then I have another part of me who's saying, "Why not just make the effort to get down to 54 kg again? Are you lazy?". The problem is, I can't do it slowly over a long period of time, I know I'll just try to get it done in like 1-2 months.

[–]hlkolaya 1 point2 points ago

what country are you in now? if you're in the US there are clinics that do sliding scale fees that you could look into. You can ask over the phone if they have any experience with eating disorders/disordered eating before you make a decision.

[–]wildhorses[S] 0 points1 point ago

I'm in Germany and I'm a Swedish citizen. I've been thinking about going to a CBT-therapist, but I don't really know, would still only afford max once a month.. It doesn't feel like I have a eating disorder. It's like I can actually control my actions, I don't starve myself, but I feel a guilt over not doing it.. Ok, that sounds kinda weird when typing it.

[–]hlkolaya 1 point2 points ago*

well, you may not have an eating disorder- but someone who deals with eating disorders may still be more useful to you since you do have disordered eating (feeling guilt over food), exercise obsession, and invasive thoughts about weight and thinness- so you may be on your way to an eating disorder or, even if you're not, an ED specialist will understand better what you're experiencing and know better how to help.

I'm not sure how health care in Germany works, nor do I know how it works for someone who isn't a German citizen- is there any kind of financial assistance available?

[–]afireatseaparks 2 points3 points ago

If you have trouble moderating your behavior, to the point where you feel it's negatively affecting your life, perhaps talking to a therapist would be helpful in learning how to keep things in balance. Wanting to be fit is certainly admirable, but feeling guilty about not exercising every day doesn't sound like much fun.

[–]wildhorses[S] 1 point2 points ago

i have gone to lots of therapy in the past, can't really afford it now though. no, it doesn't feel like it's healthy at all wanting to be almost underweight instead of a healthy weight..

[–]afireatseaparks 0 points1 point ago

Sorry to hear that's not a viable option for you right now. Maybe a support group for compulsive exercisers? I'm sure you could find one online for free, if not in your area. I'm not pushing that label or diagonisis on you, but they might have some perspectives or strategies that you would find helpful.

[–]astryid 2 points3 points ago

Look at the concept of Health At Every Size. It might help!

It sounds simple... but find things you enjoy doing, even if they aren't traditional exercise. Things that are FUN.

Like taking photos? Go on photo walks. Find groups in your area that do them. Like to dance? Take a class. Play a silly dance game on a gaming console. Jump on a trampoline. Ride a bike. Walk through new-to-you parts of your city.

Explore new things and new ways of moving.

[–]Natsuiro 3 points4 points ago

Instead of thinking of it like exercise or working out, why don't you think of it as training instead?

Most atheletes who compete in sports without weight classes are probably more concerned with getting faster and stronger than a number on the scale or how they look.

[–]HolaChicka 0 points1 point ago

I like that a lot! Maybe train for a 5k?

[–]camelliagirl 1 point2 points ago

Ooh! For that, I really like Hundred Pushups and Two Hundred Situps and their other friends. It's all about figuring out where you are and getting to a fitter place, without guilt and without even taking too much time out of your week. I really like doing pushups (though I'm hardly good at them, I started in the worst fitness class :P) so maybe she'd like this.

[–]wildhorses[S] 2 points3 points ago

I tried the Hundred Pushups for a while, that was actually kinda fun :) It's not too time consuming either. Maybe I should do that again.

[–]camelliagirl 0 points1 point ago

Yayay!

[–]camelliagirl 1 point2 points ago

Don't measure your calories! Just do activities that you really like.

For me personally, that's tai chi, yoga, walking, and dancing (not in a class, for hours at a party).

Try to do something fun/active for around half an hour a day.

What activities do you like, and are they available to you?

[–]wildhorses[S] 1 point2 points ago

Gah, not measuring calories is so difficult, but I agree that it's stupid :( Whenever I buy things at the supermarket I scan through the calories. I don't know how to stop doing that. Yoga is a good idea as well! If I can find any cheap classes I should totally do that. That's not a stressful type of exercise, but still good for you. I really like boxing and dancing. I'm going to start dancing classes, maybe I should try to find some boxing classes as well..

[–]camelliagirl 0 points1 point ago

Definitely! And there are free classes at YMCA's and YWCA's and Jewish centers, at least around here.

[–]askmanilla 0 points1 point ago

Speaking from experience I've found that it helps to mentally separate my weight and my health. My doctor and therapist have both made the point that conflating the two is not helpful as I get into the same situation you seem to be in. I feel bad about my body and then I give up because I'm not seeing and results.

What I've found really helps is to focus on exercise and diet purely as a means to a healthier lifestyle. Being healthier means a longer and more enjoyable life and what that really means is that your truly aiming towards a lifestyle; and those last forever. That means that when I eat or drink something that isn't healthy I think to myself "well, this is just one moment in a long journey, a little indulgence is fine in moderation".

TL;DR: Try and think of a healthier lifestyle as something you will be doing for 40 years and not 4 months. Do that and your feelings on your current body may feel less significant.