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[–]propagated 285 points286 points ago

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Tonight: hivemind collaborates to analyze 16 year old girl's facebook post. film at 11.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points ago

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Update: hivemind suggests a lecture and/or indian giving.

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[–]Killgraft 1456 points1457 points ago

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"Like" the post.

[–]jonnyjedi 42 points43 points ago

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"You think you hate it now, wait 'til you drive it.!"

[–]CocoaBeans 305 points306 points ago

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Brilliant

[–]njtrafficsignshopper 301 points302 points ago

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I agree but I really doubt she'd get it.

[–]Gawdzilla 265 points266 points ago

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If she's like many teenage girls, she'll over-analyze the fuck out of it.

[–]THR 459 points460 points ago

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If she's stupid enough to post that comment on Facebook, she's clearly not the analytical type.

[–]Gawdzilla 236 points237 points ago

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I didn't say analyze rationally.

[–]Nesman64 297 points298 points ago

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They new it was a piece of shit that doesn't even have an ipod mount and they're ruining my life on purpose.

[–]You_Jelly_Bro 130 points131 points ago

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Upvote for intentionally misspelling 'knew'

[–]_Madrugada_ 24 points25 points ago

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....he did it on purpose.... right? RIGHT?

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points ago

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exactly.

[–][deleted] 284 points285 points ago

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1st world problems, amiright?

[–]cutyourface 809 points810 points ago

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perhaps she's quoting an antagonistic friend or bf?

[–]AtomicDog1471 182 points183 points ago

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Yeah, the "just like me" part doesn't really make much sense otherwise.

[–]CountVonTroll 66 points67 points ago

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Well, it kinda would, in which case OP should talk to her about her emotional state.

But alas, the pitchforks are out already.

[–]cuteintern 32 points33 points ago

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It's either really passive-aggressive or a mediocre attempt at self-deprecating humor. Hard to tell without knowing her sense of humor (or possible lack thereof).

[–]brazen 19 points20 points ago*

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Yes, my thought is that the "just like me" really seals it as self-deprecating humor rather than actually complaining about the car. Although I find it hard to believe a 98 Monte Carlo could actually be run down enough to warrant self-deprecation.

I drove a 35-year old pickup in high school that had a top speed of about 65 and had so many holes in it that it felt like a wind tunnel driving at that speed. I loved having the truck, but I still recognised it as a "piece of shit" and was willing to admit it. It was the old boxy shaped style of truck and colored red and rust, so I nicknamed it the "shit-brick". But a 13-year old Monte Carlo would have been a luxury car to me in high school (heck, it would now).

edit: it was a 25-year old pickup. my bad. the point is still the same though.

[–][deleted] 208 points209 points ago

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Yeah, I'm kinda wondering if the status is supposed to be read with a very sarcastic tone of voice too.

[–]DangerousDetlef 38 points39 points ago

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I also agree here. You should make sure to clarify that while having a serious talk with her. Don't give her any hint that you think it may be sarcasm what she wrote because if she's clever enough, she might make up an excuse about that.

Just talk with her, normally, no shouting or anything like that, but makie clear that you're quite disappointed by her behaviour and just ask her, why she has done it. Make sure that she doesn't know that you know about that FB post, so she's suprised about the talk and does not get any chance to make up excuses.

If she's then able to tell you the whole story of a retarded friend e.g., it's possibly true and you ought to believe her.

If she's trying to lie and you notice it, take that car away from her.

If she's telling the truth and she indeed did show a spoiled behaviour, you may should think about if and how to punish her. Is it the first time she behaving like that? Did other incidents like this happen before?

If she's always behaving like this: take away that car from her and teach her a good lesson, because she deserves it.

If it's the first time and she feels sorry about it, think about another punishment, like restricting the use of the car or anything similiar.

[–]Gauntlet 73 points74 points ago

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In this case at the very least she will learn the importance of using quotation marks. Severely over reacting grammar Nazi for the win!

[–]DanGliesack 48 points49 points ago*

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If it wasn't quoting someone else, I think calling herself a piece of shit is probably more worrisome than the car thing, to be honest.

Good example of why parents shouldnt have Facebook. "Hey honey! What did that status you posted yesterday mean I didn't understand it?" (repeat 3x per week)

[–]TehRedBaron 80 points81 points ago

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I think this is exactly it. When I read it, it sounded to me more like:

"TIL my car sucks. Thanks, friends. /sarcasm"

[–]brbmycatisonfire 14 points15 points ago

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I read "I'm a piece of shit, gonna kill myself"

[–]Mirm83 339 points340 points ago

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Yes! That's what I read, too.

She probably showed off her new car to her bf or bff or whatever, and got shot down. This is typical teenage emo sarcasm. It's designed to make somebody else feel bad for bringing her down, not diss her new car.

[–]onetwenty_db 56 points57 points ago

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If only she'd put an "apparently" in there!

[–]manojar 43 points44 points ago

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"looks like" is supposedly the equivalent of "apparently".

[–]K1DUK 5 points6 points ago

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"Looks like" is virtually identical in meaning to "apparently."

[–]Phrend 38 points39 points ago

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Pretty sure 90% of the people in this thread did not pick up on this...and OP still hasn't.

[–]Zenmetsu 14 points15 points ago

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Either that, or she has very low self-esteem.

[–]LordUb3r 45 points46 points ago

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Jesus Christ, I just read "antagonistic" as some weird variation of agnostic and was very confused.

[–]DeathToUnicorns[!] 58 points59 points ago

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I don't know if I believe you

[–]vth0mas 74 points75 points ago

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I don't know if I believe in you.

[–]candielime 33 points34 points ago

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Yeah this needs to go to the top. This really doesn't sound serious to me.

[–]Chasingwaves 1562 points1563 points ago

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Tomorrow you and your wife should go to wherever she is and have a seriously uncomfortable conversation about how hurt you are that she reacted so ungratefully to your gift. Say your piece and then just sit there silently until she says something.

It sucks you have to do it but it's time for a real life lesson about 1.) being grateful and 2.) watching what you say on FB.

[–]St4nd4rd[S] 803 points804 points ago

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This has some real potential.

I'm like a lot of the commentors, I would have killed for a car at her age, she's 16 btw. I got a job washing dishes when I was 14 and saved up for an actual POS Oldsmobile 88. The car we gave her runs perfectly, and has always had all the maintenance done on it.

[–]Sam474 1512 points1513 points ago

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Chasingwaves is right, that is what you should do and I'll tell you why: From the information given you have no idea WHY she said this.

This is a 13 year old car that wouldn't have been considered a particularly "girly" car even when it was brand new. She's 16 years old and she is self-depricating in the same message she insults the car.

Now if she is just a little brat, then so be it, but if you sit her down and talk with her and she says "I showed it to my friends and they made fun of me and then I felt like shit and said something stupid and insensitive" you're going to end up feeling really badly for taking it away from her and piling onto her guilt and shitty feelings instead of helping her.

Teenagers are all assholes and it's true that the current crop is pretty spoiled, but that's a good thing. Every generation of American kids has had more and better than the generation before them and every older generation has felt a little annoyed at that.

"I had to work my ass for my first car!"

"I had to walk!"

"Velociraptors killed 7 of my siblings!"

But the pressures you feel as a teen are very real and serious to you AT THE TIME. It's not until much further along that most teens realize how stupid they were as teens. There's no reason to make a bigger deal out of this than need be. You're an adult, she is barely a teenager, use this to teach her a lesson about hurting others, thinking before she speaks, and not fucking up her life by doing stupid shit online because she thinks no one will know, but do those things with the intent of helping her grow not out of anger or hurt or a desire for revenge.

Just my two cents.

[–]chickadeedoo 96 points97 points ago

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You know...I think you're right. Since her post also included "a piece of shit...just like me" it makes me think that some bitchy "friends" of hers said some nasty remarks about her car and now she feels like shit. It's not really an excuse for saying that..I mean I had a not-so-new car in high school and was made fun of a LOT for it (I was from a pretty snobby area) but I still loved it like my baby. But as a former teenage girl...."friends" can be VICIOUS.

[–]sirket 49 points50 points ago

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She may not have been commenting on the car at all- she may have been "quoting" comments some shitheads in her school made. As in they think she's a piece of shit and now they think her car is a piece of shit- just like her. Those may not have been her feelings.

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[–]PhilR8 3 points4 points ago

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Have you read the comments below? Too late. CNTRL+F "cunt" and prepare to be amazed.

[–]throwawaymechanic37 14 points15 points ago

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I had a car almost as old as I was in high school. When I first got it, TONS of people made fun of it. It's an old Accord, it's an automatic (girly) only 4 speeds (ancient) 0-60 in a little over 10 seconds (slow).

You know what though? Instead of hating my car, I changed the way I looked at things. I played up the strengths of the car and pretty soon everyone loved it, the car was famous around the school and 5 years later people from high school will message me asking how the CAR is doing.

Tl;Dr had a crappy generic car, it became more popular than I was.

[–]z0han 3 points4 points ago

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My first car did 0-60 in 17 seconds when it was brand new. 10 seconds is a fucking sports car!

[–]fauxnetikz 2 points3 points ago

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Hell I had the best/coolest/fastest car at my high school and people still talked shit. No matter what you do, there are always going to be people talking shit.

[–]CowFu 178 points179 points ago*

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it's true that the current crop is pretty spoiled,

said every generation about the next one since the early days of mankind.

Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.

-Socrates ~420b.c.

//corrected year, thanks Keristafere

[–]keristafere 80 points81 points ago

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*~420
Plato also has a bit in Republic (I think) which essentially says 'damn kids these days and their emo music'

[–]QhorinHalfhand 6 points7 points ago

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Does he also include a little rant about how their skinny-togas are dangerous to their health?

[–]deterrence 6 points7 points ago

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I'll top that!

"We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self control."

-6000 year old Egyptian tomb inscription quoted in R. Buckminster Fuller's I Seem to be a Verb.

And so it is indeed with every generation. The reason we die is to give way to the younger, more flexible offspring.

[–]neurobry 217 points218 points ago*

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Moreover, there's been actual neuroscience work done that show that teenagers make very bad decisions solely due to their biology - essentially the rewiring of their brains during development. So telling her WHY it was painful is a big deal for her learning. I would be WAY more concerned about her saying "piece of shit, just like me". It sounds like she has some pretty severe self-image issues that are probably feeding into a depression.

Edit: Dug up an old link which summarizes the findings I'm talking about.

[–]kirstead 182 points183 points ago

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As a 16-year-old boy who often witnesses this kind of thing, if she's calling herself a piece of shit on Facebook 9/10 times it's because she wants people to comment complimenting her and saying she's not a piece of shit. In this case she probably wanted them to pity her for having an alledgedly crappy car as well.

[–]brokenearth02 188 points189 points ago

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Look like the car...

sunglasses

...isn't the only thing backfiring.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points ago

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VROOOOOOOOOOM- *pop-KAPOW* -EEEEEAH!

[–]aloneinlove 64 points65 points ago

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If she were to use Google+ she wouldn't have had this problem.

[–]kirstead 162 points163 points ago

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You're right, there wouldn't be anyone to comment.

[–]lamaksha77 15 points16 points ago

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That's a very well reasoned argument, thanks for posting this. My initial reaction was to think what a bitch, take the car back from her, but you showed that there is another side to this whole thing.

[–]nutsackninja 50 points51 points ago

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Every generation of American kids has had more and better than the >generation before them and every older generation has felt a little >annoyed at that.

I would kill to have it as good as my parents had it. My dad easily supported our whole family while my mom stayed home to raise us. Currently I steal food from my parents fridge when they are not home (I think they know but don't say anything) so I can make rent. I wouldn't call that progress.

[–]throwawaymechanic37 36 points37 points ago

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My dad tried to give me the "I struggled so much" speech, then he asked how much I make, I make less than he did back in 1990. He shut up after that.

[–]quaternary 8 points9 points ago

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Average family buying power's remained roughly constant. The difference is, now both parents have to work!

[–]amaefm 41 points42 points ago

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Every generation of American kids has had more and better than the generation before them

I have an unfortunate feeling the generations post baby-boomer are actually going to be worse off.

[–]lrpiccolo 5 points6 points ago

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Yeah, my teenager is almost certainly going to have something I never dreamed of having. A decade of work paying off her student loans. And minimal hope of getting a job that pays a decent wage. I feel really bad for kids these days.

[–]TPG7 389 points390 points ago

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Upvote for "Velociraptors killed 7 of my siblings!"

[–]vivvav 195 points196 points ago

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Please, I fed my siblings to velociraptors of my own volition.
To be fair, they were touching my stuff.

[–]Carrotman 35 points36 points ago

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Was it a good touch or a bad touch?

[–]pururin 5 points6 points ago

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Self-preservation. Such is life.

[–]Reason_for_Downvote 61 points62 points ago

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Rule #36: Explaining upvote.

[–]xibbie 8 points9 points ago

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Circular Reference Warning

[–]Ibelieveinlies 81 points82 points ago

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It infuriates me as an 18 year old that you say "all teenagers are assholes" when I have spent my entire life keeping my parents happy simply because the alternative is nazi-esque punishments. We arent all assholes. There are plenty of 30 year olds who are far more immature and lack even a shred of the common sense some people my age have.

Though I understand where you cone from with the generalization, please stop.

[–]BelieveinFacts 79 points80 points ago

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At last..my nemesis. I have found you.

[–]Ibelieveinlies 53 points54 points ago

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You son of a bitch.

[–]koalaberries 22 points23 points ago

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Okay, okay: All teenagers except Ibelieveinlies are assholes.

Relevant username?

[–]archie42 13 points14 points ago

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Good counselling Madam/Sir Sam

[–]TJFadness 119 points120 points ago

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My brother is 22 and he doesn't have a car, so she asked if we wanted to give it to him.

Do what Chasingwaves said, but consider telling her that you would be more than willing to give it to him instead.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points ago

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I'm not sure why the 16 year old niece wanting a car seems more important than the 22 year old needing one... unless the 22 year old has specifically said he doesn't want/need.

I'm guessing the 22 year old has to balance college and work, and as such could actually use the car for some good, rather than what the 16 year old will use it for.

[–]brikabrak 61 points62 points ago

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honestly, I would give it to him, or at least take it away for a while. (given thats hes not a spoiled brat). there are far too many examples of the real damage that kids not appreciating what they have does to them as they age. it would suck for her, and it might make things rough for a bit, but that lessons worth far more than a car.

[–]TJFadness 72 points73 points ago

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I didn't make it particularly clear, but I meant to just tell her that there were other takers. It might help her understand that the gift to her was specifically to her, and not just a "we need to get rid of this car. Anyone want to take it off our hands?" situation.

[–]widgetas 28 points29 points ago*

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At that age (16), a full service history and running ability matter far far less than the colour of the seats, I'm afraid.

She needs a bit of a wake-up call, I think. But I myself would go for limiting the use of the car before removing it from her possession, but you'd have to get her parents to agree to that. Good luck there - "Excuse me, but we need to punish your daughter for being an ungrateful shit."

However, from the wording of the post, it could be that she was going for self deprecation before slagging off the car. She called herself a "piece of shit" - why?

edit - Grammar nazi's win. Thanks for the clarification. It didn't sound right when I posted, cheers.

[–]kachapati 98 points99 points ago

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I'm really having a hard time feeling like a 16 year-old needs a car. I think your niece confirms this with her attitude. It shouldn't matter if her parents end up driving her places. You have kids, deal with it. I have a 15.5 and a 17.5 year-old myself and live in very car centric Los Angeles. They take the bus, belong to carpools for school, know how to take a cab and carry a debit card to ensure they always have money to pay the fare. They would each be the first to acknowledge they don't need a car.

Niece needs some life lessons.

[–]sunsmoon 44 points45 points ago*

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Unfortunately, what you have in LA is not available everywhere. I grew up hopping between SF and LA (lived in Novato, northern Bay Area, and Long Beach near LA) and grew up with public transportation. I could take BART and Golden Gate Transit buses anywhere I needed to go.

Unfortunately, now I live in Mississippi and there isn't even a local cab service, nevermind some kind of public transportation. Even parts of California, such as Lake County (up near Napa Valley, near-ish to Chico state), have limited to no public transportation. Lake County had charter buses and a cab service.

In both my area of Mississippi and Lake County, riding a bike / walking to and from employment opportunities, or even the grocery store, can take a good 45+ minutes, oftentimes longer for the majority of the citizens.

When I lived in Lake County, the nearest grocery store was a 30 minute drive. Now, in Mississippi, the nearest grocery store is "only" 25 minutes when driving. However, both trips are incredibly dangerous for cyclists and walkers due to lack of adequate bike lines and sidewalks.

Like I said, I grew up in some of the more populated areas of California. When I moved back [to Fremont, eastern Bay Area] for a year and some change a while back, I used public transportation to get to/from work and anywhere else I needed to go. If public transportation wouldn't work, I'd carpool or walk/bike. None of that is foreign to me. To be honest, I prefer it. Unfortunately, after moving to more rural areas of California, and even more rural areas of the United States, it became clear to me that I would need to own a car and actually have a drivers license in order to even go to the grocery store.

TLDR: Don't pass judgement on teens and young adults having a vehicle. You don't know where they live. Not all parts of the US (or even the world) have adequate public transportation or a cab service, and as such a car is an absolute necessity.


Edit: Fixed a few words.

[–]therpham 80 points81 points ago

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It depends on where they live. You'd be fine without a car in somewhere like LA where you have tons of transportation options, but in a lot of other places (for example, the town where I spent the first 22 years of my life) your options are either go by car or go as a pedestrian/on a bike and hope that you don't get accidentally murdered by people who have no respect for those modes of transportation since there's no infrastructure (sidewalks/bike lanes) to support them.

[–]Duckman_Drake 45 points46 points ago

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I live in Detroit, and you get nowhere without a car. Everything is way too far apart to walk, and what little public transportation exists is beyond unreliable and occasionally unsafe.

[–]vsTerminus 36 points37 points ago

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I live in Detroit,

My condolences.

[–]koolkid005 3 points4 points ago

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Detroit is a great place, the only problem is condescending douche bags who think it's some sort of post apocalyptic wasteland.

[–]Hristix 35 points36 points ago

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You must life in a nice comfortable downtown city environment with public transportation. I've had friends who's parents couldn't afford to put down a few bucks for a junker so their kid could get a job. So now they're twenty three, can't get a loan of any time, still living with their parents twenty miles from the nearest city that has employment opportunities. Their parents can't take them to work because they're too busy working themselves.

This is an excellent way to ensure your kids remain at home their entire lives. Gotta have money to get a car, gotta have a car to get money.

[–]GWOK 2 points3 points ago

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Is anyone besides me concerned/interested in the "just like me" part of the comment?

[–]ChickenTenders 47 points48 points ago

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Why did you not give it to your brother in the first place? Sibling trumps niece.

[–]low_life42 10 points11 points ago

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Try telling that to his wife, or her sister.

[–]NikkoKitty 5 points6 points ago

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It was the wife's car, so it went to the wife's family member. I would NOT be giving my SIL a car over my nephew.

[–]YYYY 16 points17 points ago

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"Looks like my new car is a piece of shit, just like me!"

Seems that she may be communicating something that may be lost to us here.
On the other hand, if your niece is spoiled maybe it was due to her upbringing. Kids don't magically grow into well adjusted adults - sometimes there are rocks in the way.

[–]Sauerteig 3 points4 points ago

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This is exactly what I get from that sentence. "Looks like..." indicates that perhaps this is what someone stated to HER. Otherwise I would think she would more likely have simply said "My new car is a piece of shit..." The context of that facebook post, well, only she knows. Overreaction before knowing what's really going on can backfire pretty badly. Let's not immediately assume we know what the hell is going on.
It's like another poster mentioned, perhaps the guy she likes saw the car and said it's a piece of shit, and she's hurt.

[–]blue_red_green 238 points239 points ago

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Reply with, "I'm sorry you don't like the car. :( I'll be over to pick up the keys tomorrow."

[–]SquareRoot 91 points92 points ago

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Do this, but without the smiley face.

[–]NoMercy666 15 points16 points ago

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I think the frowny face adds more of a touch of sarcasm.

[–]espressoempress 4 points5 points ago

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straight to the point. perfect.

[–]FoxifiedNutjob 184 points185 points ago*

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Why the fvck wouldnt you give it to your brother anyway. A 22 year old needs a car waaaaay more than a little spoiled 16 year old brat.

Niece or brother? You must really not like your brother.

[–]OxymoronParadox 27 points28 points ago

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In the op's post, the car was originally his wife's. Since the niece is also on her side of the family, why shouldn't it be passed down through that side? The wife I think has more say of where it goes, and was prolly trying to do the nice thing and give the car to the teenager so she could go have fun.

[–]DirtPile 101 points102 points ago

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It's okay to say "fuck" on Reddit.

[–]Felt_Ninja 17 points18 points ago

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He's Roman.

[–]azwethinkweizm 31 points32 points ago

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It drives me crazy when people rearrange letters or add asterisks as if somehow they have fooled us into thinking f*** is something other than fuck.

[–]shortyjacobs 41 points42 points ago

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What the f/[|{ are you talking about?

[–]etcet 3 points4 points ago

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It's bullshit because when you say "the N word" you're putting the word nigger in the listeners head - that's what saying a word is. You say "the N word" and I think "Oh, she means nigger". You're making me say it in my head, why don't you fucking say it instead and take responsibility for the shitty words you want to say.

-- Louis CK

[–]gusbustafunk 17 points18 points ago

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This was my first thought as well.

[–]PedroDelCaso 274 points275 points ago

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Give it to your bro, he'll do wonderful things in it with girls and have hilarious drive-thru experiences with his chums in it. If this girl owns it, well we've all seen the Rebecca Black video...

[–]cerebralscrub44 2 points3 points ago

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Hey, it's a dude driving the car in that video anyway. Like a boss, he's chaperoning several bitches to school.

[–]monmonmonster 161 points162 points ago

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Well.... Is it a piece of shit?

[–]rawbdor 281 points282 points ago

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she's pretty lucky. Ferris doesn't even have a piece of shit and has to borrow Cameron's. :(

[–]Cotton_Cannon 48 points49 points ago

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If you have the means, I seriously recommend picking one up.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points ago

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Even if it is, she shouldn't have said so in a public setting. That's really poor manners and reflects badly on her and her parents.

[–]alexthesock 203 points204 points ago

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Realize your niece is a brat and don't get her presents anymore.

[–]Jmmcclu 167 points168 points ago

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I think this is a problem with a lack of sarcasm font. Try reading it from the perspective of a teenage girl just told by the snotty bitch girls (I.E. 96% of all teenage girls) that the car was a piece of shit. Now add to that previous conversations where your niece was called a piece of shit. Insert sarcasm. The result is most likely this post.

You could, as a thought, as her like a goddamn adult. She's young. Stop fucking around like your still in high school with her and go ask her to explain her actions. If they explanation is unsatisfactory, then you have the option of stripping her of the car. If you don't go talk to her and ask her what's up you're being just as childish.

Go be a big boy and talk to your niece and stop fucking around on the internet asking for advice about family problems. You know how to be an adult. Do it.

[–]drunkasapunk 8 points9 points ago

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I wish I had more upvotes for this. Rather than react rashly based on what people on the internet voted on, why not give her a chance to explain herself? And if she can't, well you have all right to take the car back, especially if her parents are like that.

Imagine having an awful day where someone just insulted your new car, you vented about it somewhere an all of a sudden it was just taken away. At 16, I'd be fucking destroyed.

On the other hand, I can also understand giving a car to someone and being pissed that they completely ignore how awesome of a gift it is.

So talk to her, figure it out. Give her the choice. If you spend tons of time with them and know her better, you'll know whether or not she's being genuine when you approach her.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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this is exactly what I wanted to say to the guy, but I got more pissed and wrote somethign more inflammatory just now

seriously, this guy sounds like such a d-bag. have this guy + his wife + his sis in law never been kids or what? it doesn't matter if YOU think its a good car or your 21 yr old (note -- a GUY who is 5 years older than the kid, and no longer dealing with teenaged peers on a daily basis) is a decent car. in the grand scheme of things, it is a monte carlo that is as old as her pretty much

instead of getting made fun of for driving "that beat up old shit car", she makes fun of it + herself and now she's seen as the funny girl, not the sad sack who drives a shitmobile

god, this guy sounds like such a drama queen haha ... trying to start shit with his 16 year old cousin on facebook. what a champ. I love how all these cunts on reddit are super supportive of waging battle against a teenage girl.

[–]milkbread 196 points197 points ago

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take it away. make her learn to appreciate what she gets.

[–]FireSlash 30 points31 points ago

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This.

In high school I noticed a very interesting trend. People who took care of their cars and appreciated them were people who bought them with their own money

My parents made me do this and I'm so glad they did. Many people who got gift cars from their parents ran them into the ground (or more commonly a tree/deer), while the fleet of rusty old cars in the parking lot remained unchanged.

My first car was this (interior). Its a 1993 Dodge Shadow which I bought for $800. My parents loaned me $300 to cover what I didn't have. When it broke down I had to fix it myself or pony up the cash to get it fixed professionally. (I did the former). If I couldn't afford gas, I didn't drive. Basic economics.

It's a lot easier to appreciate a car when you bought it with your own money, and realize fucking it up means not having a car. I had to get a job to buy the car, and this was the basis for my transition into not leeching off my parents.

Fun fact: Both of my sisters got free cars, I didn't. Both of my sisters are also now financially screwed with tons of debt and awful credit scores.. Mine's fantastic and I have a healthy savings account. My parents also still regularly give them money for things they need or bills they need to pay. The last time my parents gave me any cash was the loan for that car, and I paid it back in full in 3 months.

[–]unprotectedsax 17 points18 points ago

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it's the "just like me" that i'm interested in. i feel like you might not have the whole picture.

[–]ShakeyBobWillis 8 points9 points ago

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. At that point my niece said "But it's a piece of junk!" to which my sister in-law replied then it's not yours anymore and you can buy your own car. She called us and told us to give it to my brother. When I told him he was getting the car for free he freaked out and wouldn't stop saying thank you. It's not the ideal outcome, but it is what it is. Thanks for the advice reddit.

How is this not the ideal outcome (given that the attitude portion had already happened)? She learns a valuable lesson, brother gets a car he needed (and lets be honest, probably 'needs' more than a 16 year old does) and was extremely grateful. Win-Win.

[–]MustangSallie 265 points266 points ago

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Comment on it. Tell her to bring the keys by tomorrow and catch a ride home.

[–]Akbd40 60 points61 points ago

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Or you could give her one very uncomfortable ride back in the car.

[–]RugerRedhawk 20 points21 points ago

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Is it a Volkswagen?

[–]TheCrabNicholson 84 points85 points ago

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Anal sex, 10-4.

[–]jack_skellington 21 points22 points ago

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I like this approach partly because I've already seen it done before. There was a girl who posted on FB about her creepy boss hitting on her and asking her to do lame jobs. Then her boss replies and says, "I guess you forgot that you friended me. I'm not hitting on you; I'm gay. Also, since you don't like "doing jobs" you don't have to keep the one we've given you. Come by to pick up your last paycheck tomorrow. And yes, I'm serious."

I think that kind of thing really is the best way to handle it. They complain publicly about how crappy their beneficial situation is? Fine, respond publicly by ending it for them. It's a strong life lesson.

[–]garlicdeath 19 points20 points ago

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Handled that like a boss.

[–]XxSirCarlosxX 7 points8 points ago

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You know, I'm TWENTY SIX, Married, with a Eight year old and a Two and a half year old, both girls. I went through a lay off and can barely afford to keep my internet on to post this.

I drive a 1997 Monte Carlo, a year older. I've clipped a dear in it on country back roads at night, I've had someone rear end it in a parking lot and take off, and to avoid killing a dog in the winter, I swirved and went off the road, smashing the passenger side, and now having an all blue car, accept the passenger door which is black.

It may look like shit, but besides the fact it seems my drive belt is starting to go out, it has ALWAYS been dependable and gotten amazing gas milage.

For a 16 year old girl, to COMPLAIN about getting the car like the one I depend on for FREE, though likely in better condition, and then bitching about it makes me sick to my stomach.

I hope she is forced to work for her own car from here on out. Maybe then she'll have some respect for things like this.

[–]LaPetiteM0rt 5 points6 points ago

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Give the car to your brother! A 16 year old doesn't need a car and she'll just take it to the mall or school. A 22-year old however, will use it to drive to work and buy groceries. That girl needs to learn some gratitude.

[–]RedditRage 7 points8 points ago

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I think it is important to realize that to a teenager, a car is a kind of fashion statement. You could give her an ugly dress that cost thousands of dollars and she would do the same thing. She is unlikely to see the totally "practical" side (and monetary value) of a car, it's more about her social life to her at this age.

[–]nsfw-courtney 6 points7 points ago

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What a bitch, I'm a 16 year old girl and have been applying everywhere in my town so I could save up for a car. Some people are just so unappreciative.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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98' Monte Carlo is a fine car. Your niece is a rotten egg. I hope she is salvageable.

I reckon it's at about age 25 when you realize nobody really gives 2 shits about what kind of car you drive. What's more, at that age you realize that your peers that drive infinity G's and Mercedes C class coups who absolutely do not have the financial infrastructure to drive luxury cars are fucking posers.

All your god damn friends know you are a department supervisor at Best Buy and rent your apartment, why the fuck would anyone think you are cool because you spend half your paycheck on your car? Nobody gives a fuck.

[–]lurker818 13 points14 points ago

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It's an odd day when I become the voice of reason. Before you go jumping ship on the notion that your niece is an ungrateful little bitch you should maybe talk to her. Maybe someone she was showing off the car to said it was a piece of shit. This might have been a boy she was interested in hence the "Just like me" that followed.

All I'm saying is talk to your niece before passing judgement on her Facebook post.

[–]joshfern 13 points14 points ago

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Perhaps she had a embarrassing experience, such as someone making fun of the car and her. This experience, coupled with her still-developing frontal lobe (being that she's only 16), triggered an emotional response to the negative stimuli and led to her making an ill-conceived facebook post that was not congruent with her social welfare.

In other words, she, along with many of her peers, are prone to saying things they feel but should not express outwardly. Teens are biologically ill-equipped to always make the right social choices and we adults sometimes take this for granted.

Is this an excuse for her behavior? No, it is not. However, it should be remembered that she is still learning to navigate social behavior and repress emotional responses that can get her in hot water.

Use the situation as a learning experience for her. Don't take the car away. Allow her to feel your pain and disappointment through a heartfelt discussion. Clearly she has some self-confidence issues as it is (she announced to her friends and family that she is "a piece of shit," after all); be constructive, not destructive. She's a good kid (if she wasn't you wouldn't have given her the car to begin with, right?) and it would benefit her if you acted constructively.

[–]Aldebaran-Shellmouth 85 points86 points ago

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Comment on it and tell her to invest in a comfortable pair of shoes because she'll be walking everywhere from now on. Take the car away.

[–]zombieCyborg 78 points79 points ago

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I honestly will never understand how people can not be grateful when someone buys them a car.

Ever see that show "My Super Sweet Sixteen"? I'm sure those kids use the same "I'm a piece of shit" attitude to get attention from reassuring esteem-builders telling them how special and amazing they are.

Rest assured, they are pieces of shit.

Your niece seems to be able to craft a perfect Facebook post that both makes people feel the need to tell her how great she is and (potentially) buy her a nicer car. She knows what she is doing, and she is good at it.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points ago

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For kids who mix in richer circles getting a car is far less of a deal than it is to the plebs like us. I'm not saying they shouldn't be grateful but that's like asking regular people to be on-their-knees praying to the lord grateful for every crumb they get to eat. It's perspective.

I do still think insulting the car is incredibly rude and bad behaviour. Even if you're a fucking super wealthy princess you should have the grace to show gratitude for a present that was a big deal for the people who gave it to you.

[–]alpha7158 5 points6 points ago

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Maybe the car broke down on her.

[–]AliceDestroyed 4 points5 points ago

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The outcome made me smile.

[–]Irishpilot84 5 points6 points ago

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Your first car is supposed to be a complete POS. You are almost guaranteed to do something stupid within your first few years of driving. It lowers your insurance premium and in all honesty no one cares what you drive. A crappy car builds character.

This girl will regret giving away a free car.

[–]GhostedAccount 15 points16 points ago

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So we figure pass it on. At this point my sis in-law has seen the face book post and called me to ask if we want it back. My brother is 22 and he doesn't have a car, so she asked if we wanted to give it to him.

You answered your own question. The mother of the girl has decided the girl should not have it and even gave you a suggestion about who should have it.

So do it.

[–]HarryBlessKnapp 11 points12 points ago

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She's 16. Who isn't a dickhead at 16? Tell her she's a dickhead and move on. If she don't want the car, tell her you will take it back.

[–]r-ice 4 points5 points ago

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I want to hear an update !

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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When I was 16, I drove dirt!

and I was happy to drive that dirt.

Up hill

both ways

in 5 feet of snow.

[–]HiGravShawn 5 points6 points ago

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Sit her and talk to her. Don't jump in with a knee jerk response.

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Don't take offense and make sure you understand what she meant. This could be in response to other kids calling her new car a POS, or it could mean something totally different. Even if her purpose was to insult and hurt you, you should be trying to help her to learn and grow from the experience. So definitely find a better way to respond than with retaliation.

[–]kind_of_a_jerk 5 points6 points ago

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Take it back. Set it on fire. Post photos on FB, tag her.

[–]daversa 3 points4 points ago

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How about giving her the benefit of the doubt and talking to her—not the fucking internet about it.

[–]thatbrazilianguy 3 points4 points ago

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Not the ideal outcome? Are you kidding me? It's the PERFECT outcome!

Scumbag niece didn't value a fucking FREE CAR and got it taken away from her. Your brother got it and was more than grateful.

[–]OperatorMike 4 points5 points ago

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AWESOME RESOLUTION!

[–]kwikshot 5 points6 points ago

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I'm 16 and seriously I would burst out crying if someone gave me a car, that would be incredibly amazing...

[–]Robstaley 5 points6 points ago

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your first car should be a piece of shit.

[–]chosenken 3 points4 points ago

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Not the ideal outcome? You took the car from some one that cared more about her image than how lucky she was to have a car, and gave it to some one that is truly happy and grateful to you. I think it was the ideal out come.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Very nice outcome, I'm happy the car is going to someone who appreciates it. No offense but, I'd hate to see the type of person your niece ends up being.

[–]msaint 9 points10 points ago

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See that teenagers? This is why you need Google+. Say all the stupid selfish shit you want in circles excluding your family.

[–]syngltrkmnd 7 points8 points ago

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Post on facebook: "i'm repo'ing my niece's car tomorrow.". Let THAT simmer.
And seriously, take it away.

[–]poopright 9 points10 points ago

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The actual messages are: "I have a new car!!!" and "I am depressed over something unrelated". Kids and their dramatic e-messages don't always translate well into grownup-ese.

[–]NoApollonia 34 points35 points ago

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Honestly, if you take back the car, she's only going to resent you. It's also going to start a bad precedence. A gift is a gift....it's not to be taken back. You said you gave her the car - it's not your car any longer, it's hers. So short of driving it over a cliff, not your business any more. You are the jerk if you take it back. I do question who's name the car is in since they are the legal owner.

Put yourself in her shoes in the more present day - she's going to see friends driving much newer cars since their rich parents can afford them or have parents willing to go in debt for them. It's also likely a friend commented bad on it and though she is grateful for the car, she said what she did to try to fit in.

[–]vjarnot 7 points8 points ago

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start a bad precedence

set a bad precedent

[–]SgtSloth 48 points49 points ago

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Sounds like she realizes she is an ungrateful shit.

This situation makes me sad.

[–]Snowman74 47 points48 points ago

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The Situation shows his Abs.

[–]SgtSloth 11 points12 points ago

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also quite sad.

Also an ungrateful shit for that matter.

[–]overtoke 23 points24 points ago

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post on her facebook and ask her what the fuck she means

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points ago

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Take it back.

Entitlement is a fucking plague on North American Teens. She can get around in her pristine shoes instead of her piece of shit car.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points ago

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OP now reveals that this is the car they got her. The tables have turned.

[–]narddawg314 9 points10 points ago

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give it to the brother who needs it. 16 year old girls shouldn't be driving Monte's anyway. Brat.

[–]homebrewcrafter 39 points40 points ago

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You need to do 2 things:

You and your wife arrange to meet with her. Ask her to your house for dinner.

Tell her that it's extremely hurtful and concerning to hear her describe herself as "a piece of shit". Then ask her why she would consider herself a piece of shit? Explain that no one should think of themselves as being that worthless and disgusting and that you're VERY concerned that she's confronting issues in her life that may be overwhelming her. Ask her what makes her consider herself a "piece of shit", then promptly explain why she's wrong (offer examples of your own teen angst/depression, or make up stories about you feeling the same way).

Then explain to her that it hurt your feelings that your generous/loving gesture be treated with such disrespect. Sit back and listen to what she has to say. Any teenage girl who considers themselves a piece of shit is really hurting inside. She sounds like she needs guidance and support right now. Being a teen girl is fucking brutal - her outburst on facebook is probably indicative of MUCH bigger issues in her life.

PS... Kudos for your generosity. But, please understand that most teenagers say shit they don't mean ... and will come to regret later in life.

[–]taint_odour 43 points44 points ago

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And then show her how strong your pimp hand is.

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[–]extra_less 3 points4 points ago

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Dont worry about it, this is not a big deal. Tell her she can sell the car and get something she likes, keep it, or give it back. No reason u & ur wife should start acting like hurt little 13 year old girls. Dont forget how hard it can be at 16, be understanding and work it out.

[–]ScumHimself 3 points4 points ago

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she may be making fun of herself for having an older car than some of the other kids at her school... beating them to the punch. she may be brilliant

[–]mydoghasocd 3 points4 points ago

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i like how everyone is ignoring the fact that this girl has some other problems -- she not only referred to her car as a piece of shit, she referred to HERSELF as a piece of shit.

Larger problems in the pictures, me thinks.

[–]blackgrrl23 4 points5 points ago

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Take it back and give her a nice designer bus pass carrying case....make sure it's fresh off canal street in NY....she better WORK that Floouchi!

[–]mawginty 2 points3 points ago

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There's a bunch of comments here, so this has probably been said and also won't be seen by anybody . . . but is it possible that somebody said that to her? Just the phrasing of the post makes me think that somebody said something along the lines of, "You're a piece of shit with a piece of shit car" or something like that.

[–]Nlelith 4 points5 points ago

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Please, PLEASE investigate further before jumping to conclusions. The "just like me" part is an almost dead giveaway that this post is meant sarcastic. I was in kind of the same situation as a kid. Good friends of my parents bought me an expensive toy train set, with the words "just a little present". Because it was fuckhuge, I sarcastically said "just?", but they didn't get the sarcastic part. It was half a year later when I learned about this and the whole time they acted very cold towards me, because they thought I was complaining.

[–]andyrjames 3 points4 points ago

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ask her for the context of the post. facebook should almost never be used as the sole deciding factor in anything.

[–]icallshenannigans 3 points4 points ago

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Is it just me who thinks that someone else said this to her?

It sounds like she had words with someone and they called her a piece of shit just like her car - I don't really get that she mean it as her saying the car is shit.

"I am a satanist." Said John.

[–]rageth 2 points3 points ago

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Why can't people just talk to each other anymore? :(

[–]skcusloa 4 points5 points ago

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I work on cars for a living and those things are big smoking piles of shit.

[–]webbles 2 points3 points ago

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Man, this is why I don't add family as friends on Facebook. You are completely misreading her statement.

[–]DarcyHart 2 points3 points ago

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That IS the ideal outcome! It when to the person who appreciated it more! Some punky 16 year old that doesn't need a car or your bro that does!

[–]Smithy021 4 points5 points ago

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learned a lesson like this from my pops.. Took me out car shopping.. found said car.. I didnt care what car it was i just wanted power locks and power windows!!.. Well this one didnt have it and i complained.. Dad told me beggars cant be choosers and went and bought him a tractor instead.. THAT FUCKER!!!.. tbh tho learned a lesson and a about a year later he co signed with me to get my own car..

[–]cn1ght 3 points4 points ago

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I am very glad this was the outcome. If a person is not appreciative of a gift, especially one as extravagant as a car, they do not deserve it.

[–]Downfaller 4 points5 points ago

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Kinda sad you didn't give it to your brother right away. He needs it more. Glad you took it away though, being a teenager is no excuse for being an asshole.

[–]hayden_evans 3 points4 points ago

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How is this not an ideal outcome? No offense, but your niece is a spoiled bitch and deserves nothing.

[–]sometimesineedhelp 3 points4 points ago

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At that point my niece said "But it's a piece of junk!" to which my sister in-law replied then it's not yours anymore and you can buy your own car. She called us and told us to give it to my brother. When I told him he was getting the car for free he freaked out and wouldn't stop saying thank you. It's not the ideal outcome, but it is what it is.

How is that not the ideal outcome?

[–]TheSparrow16 3 points4 points ago

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That sounds like the ideal outcome to me. I agreed with the guy who said a 22 year old would have way more use for the car in the first place. She can walk her ass to school now.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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I like the outcome of this story. I believe you successfully turned a souring situation into a positive one. Good job.

[–]tamalehunter 2 points3 points ago

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What an ungrateful bitch.

[–]Prettydamnempty 3 points4 points ago

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Pardon me, but HELL YES it's an ideal outcome. The brat gets nothing, the boy gets a car and is grateful as all get out.

[–]Sirromnad 4 points5 points ago

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Best outcome ever if you ask me. Snotty little runt gets what she deserved. ..... I said runt.

[–]luvmyfuckbuddy 40 points41 points ago

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I would say do nothing. Acts of kindness should not be done with the expectation of anything in return, even the object's of that act's appreciation. She is a teenager, teenager's are prone to be inconsiderate and self-involved, I wouldn't pay the comment too much attention. I would be more worried that she equates herself with a piece of shit. Also, it IS a 1998 monte carlo and not the newest thing to be dumped on a car lot. What kind of cars do her associates drive? If they are newer models the fact that hers is so much older will cause her some social friction. Teens can be cruel. She will come to appreciate the car, however, as she uses it to get around. Be the adults here, let it go.

[–]knifebucket 11 points12 points ago

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This is the proper response. 16 yr olds can be complete assholes but I can bet she'll keep driving that car.

[–]JBgreen 231 points232 points ago

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You should be more worried about why she thinks she is a piece of shit..

[–]Killgraft 64 points65 points ago

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It sounds more sarcastic, like she thinks they think she is a piece of shit.

[–]dorei22 21 points22 points ago

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I read it this way too. Like she is personally insulted and hurt.

[–]callmesnake13 231 points232 points ago

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No he shouldn't. She's just being a dumbass dramatic teenager and you are projecting on her. There might be warning signs but a light mist of self-deprecation isn't one of them.

[–]St4nd4rd[S] 142 points143 points ago

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This is it exactly, she is your typical "everything is the end of the world" teenager.

[–]rupert654 55 points56 points ago

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shrugs If you aren't going to take her seriously when she uses a word to describe herself then you shouldn't take her seriously when she uses the same word to describe a car (especially in the very same sentence). If it is normal for her to speak like that about herself then why expect her to speak differently about a gift?

[–]upboat_oarsman 14 points15 points ago

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Here's my two cents. I agree you shouldn't worry, it's probably just teenage melodrama. However, like you say, it's an overly dramatic gesture, essentially a power play -- "oooh, look at me, I'm so miserable, everyone should just overcompensate and be really nice to me in case I, you know... get a rope or something" -- and it deserves every bit as much attention as the ingratitude over the car. If she were sat down and asked about what's wrong and why she feels like shit she would either a) actually vent issues that she needed help with, which would be good for her, or b) learn that whenever she makes these grandiose gestures, people will demand an explanation, and thereby hopefully realize that she shouldn't make them unless something is actually wrong, which would be good for everyone else.

[–]misfitx 1 point2 points ago

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My parents thought that. It turned out to be a sight worse than that.

Not to mention, the hurt that parents think genuine mental illness is just whining. A lot of teens have to suffer through depression and worse, alone, because no one will listen.

[–]Resop 36 points37 points ago

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With my experience on girls who talk like that, they say it for attention. Their lives are perfectly fine but want attention so they say things like that to garner sympathy. It's the worst aspect of facebook. No one writes positives, they just write about how their life sucks or how they always have bad luck and nothing goes right.

[–]viciousbreed[!] 18 points19 points ago

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Considering she just received a free car, I'd say her life is going okay.

[–]ip_g_chodder 32 points33 points ago

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Maybe she realized her lack of gratitude halfway through posting and was disgusted by it