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[–][deleted] 62 points63 points ago

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and from being indoctrinated into any religion before they are of the age to make such decisions.

Anyone hoping to raise more open-minded children through the use of censorship is deluding themselves. They should be talking to their children about what they find on Internet, not lazily keeping them from anything they deem "inappropriate" or "awkward to talk about".

[–]silverdrake3 2 points3 points ago

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Thank you. I was just coming here to say that.

When my kids encounter something they don't understand, I will be there to help them realize that the world is full of those who tell the truth, those who lie, those who tell lies they believe, and even those who tell truths they don't believe. It is up to them to think seriously about how reliable the sources of their information is and how plausible the information is.

I don't care whether my children join a religion. All that matters to me is that they think seriously about all the possibilities before they choose what they believe. And even if they do make a decision, I hope they keep their minds open enough to keep asking questions.

[–]Pilebsa[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Do you have children? Do you let them access anything they want?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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No, but I don't see how anecdotes and ad hominem attacks are relevant to the discussion.

[–]Pilebsa[S] 1 point2 points ago

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I'm not sure what you're talking about, but generally-speaking, shame is a very powerful force to communicate information and influence others.

I am against censorship, but I can also appreciate a campaign to turn the tables on the religious institutions who feel reality has a bad influence on their adherents. You appear to be under the assumption that unreasonable people can be logically reasoned with.

[–]jck 5 points6 points ago

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using censorship to make your kids open-minded is like beating them up to make sure they wont become violent.

[–]doctorsound 19 points20 points ago

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Irony, you are a sweet mistress.

[–]LAPHOQUE 13 points14 points ago

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This is bad. Kids will find exactly what you don't want them to. And if you've already forbidden it they pry won't talk to you about it. Just let them get suckered into going to bible study for a year because they offered cup cakes for bible verses. When they couldn't tell me where God came from I knew there was no point because if you don't know where God came from then you don't know where we came from. So I started scrounging for change to buy pop rocks. At least that's how it worked in my day.

[–]manixrock 2 points3 points ago

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And then there's always the ideas themselves. The best way to become an atheist is to simply read the bible. See how ridiculous it is (a few good ideas in an ocean of ignorance).

Making it taboo or somehow forbidden gives it undeserving appeal.

[–]sonofabiscuit 0 points1 point ago

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Every time I ask that question I get "He was always there" response, like they're some sort of Professor of Philosophy or something.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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In all fairness, that answer is entirely valid since, according to the Bible, God would be beyond our universe, along with its restriction of space, time, and logic.

[–]sonofabiscuit 0 points1 point ago

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True, but it's just the fact that it's coming from the same people who dismiss complex space-time science as a bunch of hogwash theories because their minds are too small to comprehend it.

[–]hsfrey 4 points5 points ago

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It is impossible to understand Western society without understanding the Christian mythology and its effects. A child insulated from such knowledge would be severely hampered intellectually.

[–]daoom 1 point2 points ago

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The raw judeo-christian mythology unfortunately includes a lot of sex, rape, incest, and all manner of bloody violence. I think its better to install a filter and then add exceptions for quality content suitable for a child's mind.

[–]Skynt 4 points5 points ago

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This is a TERRIBLE idea. The only way I learned about how illogical religious ideas were as a child was having access to EVERYTHING, including Genesis and the rest of the Bible. Freedom of information is what allows one to determine for themselves the truth of such matters.

[–]bushwakko 2 points3 points ago

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I'd buy my kid a bible and tell him, "lots of people think this book is somehow true". If he read it with that in mind, i'm sure he wouldn't come to that conclusion :P

[–]dwm1129 1 point2 points ago

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I want my kids to read and know about religions, they are smart enough to see they are illogical. I want them to have FREETHOUGHT. Why an atheist would want to ban their kids from reading the Bible is beyond me. The Bible is an atheists best defense against Christianity.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Too bad it's a parody. I wouldn't use this for my kid, I'd use it for me. Just like I filter out ads. I only wish the stupidfilter project was ready.

[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points ago

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I'm glad it's a parody (I might want to buy a T-shirt, though!).

After all, it would block any site dealing with religion, including American Atheists, the FFRF, content on /r/freethought . . .

[–]Up2Eleven 1 point2 points ago

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While I find this amusing and interesting, in the end I could never use it. If you can't explain with facts why all that stuff is crap, then what good are you as an atheist or as a parent?

[–]Pilebsa[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I agree. I kind of think the whole site is more tongue-in-cheek humor than a legitimate business venture.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Unfortunately, it is a hoax. It "is not ready yet", but certainly wants your money.

[–]defproc 0 points1 point ago

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The other week I was trying to explain to someone how much racism still exists in what she believes is a more universally-enlightened time. I jumped onto Youtube to show her "Coon Town" by "Johnny Rebel" but I couldn't find it despite having found it there before. Presumably it had been censored. I wasn't able to show her that reality of the world. Because of censorship, she has no idea how racist and, well, retarded some people still are and the ideas conveyed in "Coon Town" are going to be critically discussed less. Yes it is related.

[–]commonslip 0 points1 point ago

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This is utterly retardo.

[–]dangwhatno 0 points1 point ago

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athiesm and free thought aren't the same thing. "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" is as ignorant and unbecoming on you as it is on any religious zealot. if your kids are too young to be exposed to the kind of objectionable content you see in the bible, they're probably too young to be surfing the internet without you around.

if you had a better undertanding of the bible, you could talk to them about it. It never had to be true. It's fables and parables. It's the mouse pulling the thorn out of the lions foot. It's the tortoise and the hare. You shouldn't read them the damn book of revelations but if you don't fight your own ignorance and prejudice then there's no way you can fight it in your children. Raise them to be rational, questioning beings and you won't have to worry about them getting sucked into a gaping pit of lies and deceit while you're not around.

Besides, if you could find me one child under 13 years of age who could comprehend the text of the bible, let alone be interested in it, i'd take back my downvote.

[–]nocheckers -2 points-1 points ago

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You should post this in r/atheism.