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"GodBlock is a web filter that blocks religious content. It is targeted at parents and schools who wish to protect their kids from the often violent, sexual, and psychologically harmful material in many holy texts." (godblock.com)
submitted 1 year ago by Pilebsa
[–][deleted] 62 points63 points64 points 1 year ago
and from being indoctrinated into any religion before they are of the age to make such decisions.
Anyone hoping to raise more open-minded children through the use of censorship is deluding themselves. They should be talking to their children about what they find on Internet, not lazily keeping them from anything they deem "inappropriate" or "awkward to talk about".
[–]silverdrake3 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Thank you. I was just coming here to say that.
When my kids encounter something they don't understand, I will be there to help them realize that the world is full of those who tell the truth, those who lie, those who tell lies they believe, and even those who tell truths they don't believe. It is up to them to think seriously about how reliable the sources of their information is and how plausible the information is.
I don't care whether my children join a religion. All that matters to me is that they think seriously about all the possibilities before they choose what they believe. And even if they do make a decision, I hope they keep their minds open enough to keep asking questions.
[–]Pilebsa[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Do you have children? Do you let them access anything they want?
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
No, but I don't see how anecdotes and ad hominem attacks are relevant to the discussion.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but generally-speaking, shame is a very powerful force to communicate information and influence others.
I am against censorship, but I can also appreciate a campaign to turn the tables on the religious institutions who feel reality has a bad influence on their adherents. You appear to be under the assumption that unreasonable people can be logically reasoned with.
[–]Theophagist -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago
It is our duty to protect our children from those who would deceive them. Liars present simple, convincing arguments that the impressionable swallow whole. This isn't just shielding kids from knowledge of ugliness in the world or pictures of boobs. This is assuring that the parents aren't absent when a liar is trying to communicate with their children.
That being said, scripture contains much vulgarity and violence and school is not the place for it.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Yes, protect them. Not shelter them. It is important that kids are made media literate, and are able and willing to ask question about what they read, and not just take it at face value. This negates the need for any kind of censorship, and in fact gives them greater sources of discourse, not to mention sources that are at the very least useful as resources for school projects (English, history, civics, etc.).
By restricting access to any kind of religious material, we would be no better than the Christians who restrict their kid's access to sites re: moral relativism/liberalism/secularism, or China restricting access to sites about democracy.
I'm also curious about how many children have actually seriously converted to a religion on their own, without any involvement from personal role models, whether by reading the Bible at the library or the Qur'an online, or what have you.
[–]manixrock 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Guide them while they explore the world. Don't blind-fold them while they listen to you describing it. Empirical knowledge is the best way to understand the world. Taboos are made, they're not inherent.
[–]Pilebsa[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
So would you make an argument that it's perfectly reasonable for young children to be able to view porn? Should that not be censored as well?
[–]Theophagist -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago
Taboos? What the hell are you talking about?
Ok let's put it this way. I am going to try and teach your children something dangerous and insane while you aren't looking. Would you like that, or would you like to be present to guide your children? This is really just a re-phrasing of my original post, which you clearly didn't understand.
[–]manixrock 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Presumably someone deciding what to teach their children will teach them the good and the bad parts, but will decide to keep certain things out entirely from them to "keep them safe". These are the things generally termed "taboos". This is a form of censorship that begets ignorance and should be avoided.
This is really just a re-phrasing of my original post, which you clearly didn't understand.
We differ on the issue of how isolated the kids should be from the bad parts, the "taboos", the "liars". You are arguing against teaching about either the last two, or all three. I am arguing for teaching all of them.
[–]Theophagist -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
but will decide to keep certain things out entirely from them to "keep them safe"
I feel like a broken record. We aren't talking about sex or violence on tv. We are talking about a vulgar ideology that will be asserted to be true to them. By your logic I may as well give my kids gangbang porno so they don't grow up ignorant.
I am arguing for teaching all of them.
In science class do we teach alchemy as an alternative and allow them to decide on their own? That's not the way proper education works, and no matter how bohemian a parent you are you always limit your child's independence both literally and intellectually. They aren't equipped to handle either at a very young age.
I'm not saying show your kids gangbang porno. I'm saying that if they ask about it, don't change the subject, or tell them "they'll understand it when they grow up". You may disagree and think this is a taboo subject that shouldn't be talked about, but that is exactly the point.
I agree with your second paragraph entirely, but perhaps you misunderstood what I meant; I meant teach all of them in context: "this represents reality, the other not so much, and here is why..."
[–]edstatue 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Lying implies intent. I believe you're thinking of ignorance, but they'll find that everywhere anyway.
[–]Theophagist 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago*
One absolutely has to be intellectually dishonest in order to maintain any kind of believability when pushing their dogmas. While proponents of religion still assert there is some kind of argument to be had, in the real world we know that the earth is far older than 6000 years and the god hypothesis is dead in the water, yet they still use the same old warmed-over bullshit they have been using for decades, quote mining, using pseudo science, appeals to fear and ignorance, flaunting a doctorate to lend credibility to their assertions.. ( a doctorate in religious studies, the equivalent to a doctorate in Warp-core technology) and the list goes on.
So ignorance is there, yes, but lies are absolutely implicit.
I'd still argue that it isn't lying, but perhaps self-delusion. These people honestly believe in what they purport, and try to make the facts of the world fit. And if they can't make them fit, then they try to ignore them. We all do it when we know we're right, but know that we're losing the argument.
After all, how well someone argues a point has no bearing on the nature of reality.
I agree with you that religion can be harmful, but I don't think it's any more harmful than anything else. It didn't spring from a fiery pit or something, it came from the same feelings and ideas that have sprung from humankind since the dawn of consciousness (and long before, if you consider it a rationalization of the superstition instinct).
[–]jck 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
using censorship to make your kids open-minded is like beating them up to make sure they wont become violent.
[–]doctorsound 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago
Irony, you are a sweet mistress.
[–]LAPHOQUE 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago
This is bad. Kids will find exactly what you don't want them to. And if you've already forbidden it they pry won't talk to you about it. Just let them get suckered into going to bible study for a year because they offered cup cakes for bible verses. When they couldn't tell me where God came from I knew there was no point because if you don't know where God came from then you don't know where we came from. So I started scrounging for change to buy pop rocks. At least that's how it worked in my day.
And then there's always the ideas themselves. The best way to become an atheist is to simply read the bible. See how ridiculous it is (a few good ideas in an ocean of ignorance).
Making it taboo or somehow forbidden gives it undeserving appeal.
[–]sonofabiscuit 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Every time I ask that question I get "He was always there" response, like they're some sort of Professor of Philosophy or something.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
In all fairness, that answer is entirely valid since, according to the Bible, God would be beyond our universe, along with its restriction of space, time, and logic.
True, but it's just the fact that it's coming from the same people who dismiss complex space-time science as a bunch of hogwash theories because their minds are too small to comprehend it.
[–]hsfrey 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
It is impossible to understand Western society without understanding the Christian mythology and its effects. A child insulated from such knowledge would be severely hampered intellectually.
[–]daoom 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
The raw judeo-christian mythology unfortunately includes a lot of sex, rape, incest, and all manner of bloody violence. I think its better to install a filter and then add exceptions for quality content suitable for a child's mind.
[–]Skynt 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
This is a TERRIBLE idea. The only way I learned about how illogical religious ideas were as a child was having access to EVERYTHING, including Genesis and the rest of the Bible. Freedom of information is what allows one to determine for themselves the truth of such matters.
[–]bushwakko 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I'd buy my kid a bible and tell him, "lots of people think this book is somehow true". If he read it with that in mind, i'm sure he wouldn't come to that conclusion :P
[–]dwm1129 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I want my kids to read and know about religions, they are smart enough to see they are illogical. I want them to have FREETHOUGHT. Why an atheist would want to ban their kids from reading the Bible is beyond me. The Bible is an atheists best defense against Christianity.
Too bad it's a parody. I wouldn't use this for my kid, I'd use it for me. Just like I filter out ads. I only wish the stupidfilter project was ready.
[–]frogmeat 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I'm glad it's a parody (I might want to buy a T-shirt, though!).
After all, it would block any site dealing with religion, including American Atheists, the FFRF, content on /r/freethought . . .
[–]Up2Eleven 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
While I find this amusing and interesting, in the end I could never use it. If you can't explain with facts why all that stuff is crap, then what good are you as an atheist or as a parent?
I agree. I kind of think the whole site is more tongue-in-cheek humor than a legitimate business venture.
Unfortunately, it is a hoax. It "is not ready yet", but certainly wants your money.
[–]defproc 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
The other week I was trying to explain to someone how much racism still exists in what she believes is a more universally-enlightened time. I jumped onto Youtube to show her "Coon Town" by "Johnny Rebel" but I couldn't find it despite having found it there before. Presumably it had been censored. I wasn't able to show her that reality of the world. Because of censorship, she has no idea how racist and, well, retarded some people still are and the ideas conveyed in "Coon Town" are going to be critically discussed less. Yes it is related.
[–]commonslip 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
This is utterly retardo.
[–]dangwhatno 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
athiesm and free thought aren't the same thing. "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" is as ignorant and unbecoming on you as it is on any religious zealot. if your kids are too young to be exposed to the kind of objectionable content you see in the bible, they're probably too young to be surfing the internet without you around.
if you had a better undertanding of the bible, you could talk to them about it. It never had to be true. It's fables and parables. It's the mouse pulling the thorn out of the lions foot. It's the tortoise and the hare. You shouldn't read them the damn book of revelations but if you don't fight your own ignorance and prejudice then there's no way you can fight it in your children. Raise them to be rational, questioning beings and you won't have to worry about them getting sucked into a gaping pit of lies and deceit while you're not around.
Besides, if you could find me one child under 13 years of age who could comprehend the text of the bible, let alone be interested in it, i'd take back my downvote.
[–]nocheckers -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago
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